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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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I dunno ill spray some wd40 on the valveseat and see if it slides in ;/
don't be afraid to get a little rough with it, it's not from china
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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man this thing isnt budging, which way is suppose to go in? I turned it around and it fit flush but the lip thats smaller sticks out. Im assuming that the bevelled end goes on the valve seat but its not going in the valve seats hitting the inside lip of the wastegate.

Anyway for someone to show me a picture.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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man this thing isnt budging, which way is suppose to go in? I turned it around and it fit flush but the lip thats smaller sticks out. Im assuming that the bevelled end goes on the valve seat but its not going in the valve seats hitting the inside lip of the wastegate.

Anyway for someone to show me a picture.
can you get me images of how far you got it in?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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can you get me images of how far you got it in?
Its on the first page, and its hitting the inside of the wastegate. I mean it sits in there but its not touching the valve thats in there the 2nd and 3rd pick are both with the valve seat in it and you can see threw the inside that light is visible so its def not touching the valve.

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Anyway to check that part# to see if its a real tial 38mm wastegate?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Its on the first page, and its hitting the inside of the wastegate. I mean it sits in there but its not touching the valve thats in there the 2nd and 3rd pick are both with the valve seat in it and you can see threw the inside that light is visible so its def not touching the valve.

sn02038030

Anyway to check that part# to see if its a real tial 38mm wastegate?
it's real, new seats can sometimes be a pain to get in on a used unit depending on the heat it was exposed to or if the bolts holding the wastegate down were over tightened, then it was exposed to a lot of heat and the flange can warp slightly.

if you want to, you can sind it in to me and i'll have a look
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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it's real, new seats can sometimes be a pain to get in on a used unit depending on the heat it was exposed to or if the bolts holding the wastegate down were over tightened, then it was exposed to a lot of heat and the flange can warp slightly.

if you want to, you can sind it in to me and i'll have a look
jeez man how long would this take? ive already had way to much downtime as it is lol.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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jeez man how long would this take? ive already had way to much downtime as it is lol.
the day it comes in is the same day it gets sent out
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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well its definately the valve seat where do i measure this thing from the inside diameter?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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well its definately the valve seat where do i measure this thing from the inside diameter?
should be 44mm od
34.9mm ID
stepped OD should be 40.22mm
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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well i def know what the problem is, the inside diameter is the same as this valve seat could this be some freak accident like a 44mm or 40mm seat? cause the opening in this valve seat is almost bigger then the one on the wastegate.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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well i def know what the problem is, the inside diameter is the same as this valve seat could this be some freak accident like a 44mm or 40mm seat?
my guess is from the 4 years its been used the bolts were tightened too much and the flange on the bottom warped

what happened to the old seat?
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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my guess is from the 4 years its been used the bolts were tightened too much and the flange on the bottom warped

what happened to the old seat?
didnt come with it, i bought it used. so should i send this thing back or what? i mean if this valve seat is wrong i dunno but the vavle seats def bigger then the inlet its suppose to fit in.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 02:30 PM
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I have a buddy bringing his tial 38mm by my house later on with his valve seat and we are going to compare and see which is wrong that i have.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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What manifold is this? Are you sure that the flange on the manifold is right. If it is an ebay special, you can be sure that is the problem. You will need to weld on a tial flange.
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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 03:14 PM
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What manifold is this? Are you sure that the flange on the manifold is right. If it is an ebay special, you can be sure that is the problem. You will need to weld on a tial flange.
i already welded a new flange on it, it came with the jank 44mm flange but i welded a 38mm flange on it. Im having issue's with the wastegate and the valveseat mainly the flange is so-so. the wastegate bolts to it but the valve seat doesnt sit inside the lip on the 38mm flange i bought.
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