Eneos vs Amsoil
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Probably a waste with that oil by changing so soon. You should be able to do 3000 miles minimum. Instead of just dumping the oil, pull an oil analysis. But make sure you use an ISO 17025 A2LA Accredited Lab. They utilize the strictest standards and the results are duplicatable.
Although Motul is a good oil, a full Ester Based oil can have it's own share of problems with seal compatability.
Doc
Although Motul is a good oil, a full Ester Based oil can have it's own share of problems with seal compatability.
Doc
So I always go for the safe side... Fear of gas contamination.
Try doing an online search.. the cost of a couple of UOA's could be worth it to see where a Drain Interval could be..
If you do find one and are able to get it done, up to 2% fuel dillution is acceptable..
Doc
My theory with oil has always been that you run thicker oil in turbo charged vehicles. Your engine is going to rev faster because the oil is so thin it doesn't take as much energy for the motor to make a revolution. I'm not saying those oils aren't any good but I've always used 5w-50 in my dsm's and now I use it in my Evo and love it. Smoother and quieter running engine in my experience. I didn't like the way it sounded with Mobil 1 10w-30.
My theory with oil has always been that you run thicker oil in turbo charged vehicles. Your engine is going to rev faster because the oil is so thin it doesn't take as much energy for the motor to make a revolution. I'm not saying those oils aren't any good but I've always used 5w-50 in my dsm's and now I use it in my Evo and love it. Smoother and quieter running engine in my experience. I didn't like the way it sounded with Mobil 1 10w-30.
You have to be careful with that... You can be so thick that you are shotening the life of the turbo due to oil starvation. Also, these engines are designed with tight tolerances and when you are trying to push a heavier oil through them, it is causing a loss of HP.
Right now in most EVO's, I would recommend AMSOIL's new Dominator 10W-30 Racing Oil. It is developed for tight tolerance, high revving engines.
Doc
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You have to be careful with that... You can be so thick that you are shotening the life of the turbo due to oil starvation. Also, these engines are designed with tight tolerances and when you are trying to push a heavier oil through them, it is causing a loss of HP.
Right now in most EVO's, I would recommend AMSOIL's new Dominator 10W-30 Racing Oil. It is developed for tight tolerance, high revving engines.
Doc
Right now in most EVO's, I would recommend AMSOIL's new Dominator 10W-30 Racing Oil. It is developed for tight tolerance, high revving engines.
Doc
You have to be careful with that... You can be so thick that you are shotening the life of the turbo due to oil starvation. Also, these engines are designed with tight tolerances and when you are trying to push a heavier oil through them, it is causing a loss of HP.
Right now in most EVO's, I would recommend AMSOIL's new Dominator 10W-30 Racing Oil. It is developed for tight tolerance, high revving engines.
Doc
Right now in most EVO's, I would recommend AMSOIL's new Dominator 10W-30 Racing Oil. It is developed for tight tolerance, high revving engines.
Doc
Don't need it... 10W-30 and 15W50 in the Dominator Series These are Race Proven oils that are being released to the public. The 5W-20 is meant as a qualifying oil and used extensively by NASCAR.
The Dominator Series is a Racing Oil but can be used in a Street Driven Vehicle. It is not recommended for Extended Drains without the use of Oil Analysis which should be done by a ISO Certified Lab. Of course, Max Drain Intervals on the EVO are 5000 with any oil, AMSOIL or otherwise unless UOA is performed.
XL Products are not even our "Standard" oil, they are a HydroIsomerized Product, not 100% Synthetic.
AMSOIL's Pro Race teams tested these oils last year and had Zero Engine Failures and the engines exhibited less wear than normal.
The Dominator is Formulated with Specific Friction Modifiers for less drag and designed to hold up against Shear in Racing an Turbo Charged applications.
Most EVO's will use the 30 wgt Dominator, Product code RD30
Doc
AMSOIL's Pro Race teams tested these oils last year and had Zero Engine Failures and the engines exhibited less wear than normal.
The Dominator is Formulated with Specific Friction Modifiers for less drag and designed to hold up against Shear in Racing an Turbo Charged applications.
Most EVO's will use the 30 wgt Dominator, Product code RD30
Doc
Different oils for different applications....
SSO is an excellent oil for a Daily Driver and even occasional track use.
The Dominator is formulated for severe driving and racing conditions and has unique Friction Modifiers.
The SSO is a little better for cold weather starting, but there should be no problems with the Dominator oil to well below 0 degree F temps as it pours to less than -40
The Dominator is not formulated for extended drain intervals with a TBN of 8, as the SSO is with a TBN of 13.2, but should be capable of the max EVO recommended change of 5000 if the AMSOIL EAO Filter is used with no problem.
Of course, just as with ANY oil, Highly Modified and tracked engines will need to be changed by experience or better yet UOA by a ISO Certified Lab. Which, by the way, the 3 labs we use are all ISO 9001-2000 Certified.
Doc
Different oils for different applications....
SSO is an excellent oil for a Daily Driver and even occasional track use.
The Dominator is formulated for severe driving and racing conditions and has unique Friction Modifiers.
The SSO is a little better for cold weather starting, but there should be no problems with the Dominator oil to well below 0 degree F temps as it pours to less than -40
The Dominator is not formulated for extended drain intervals with a TBN of 8, as the SSO is with a TBN of 13.2, but should be capable of the max EVO recommended change of 5000 if the AMSOIL EAO Filter is used with no problem.
Of course, just as with ANY oil, Highly Modified and tracked engines will need to be changed by experience or better yet UOA by a ISO Certified Lab. Which, by the way, the 3 labs we use are all ISO 9001-2000 Certified.
Doc
SSO is an excellent oil for a Daily Driver and even occasional track use.
The Dominator is formulated for severe driving and racing conditions and has unique Friction Modifiers.
The SSO is a little better for cold weather starting, but there should be no problems with the Dominator oil to well below 0 degree F temps as it pours to less than -40
The Dominator is not formulated for extended drain intervals with a TBN of 8, as the SSO is with a TBN of 13.2, but should be capable of the max EVO recommended change of 5000 if the AMSOIL EAO Filter is used with no problem.
Of course, just as with ANY oil, Highly Modified and tracked engines will need to be changed by experience or better yet UOA by a ISO Certified Lab. Which, by the way, the 3 labs we use are all ISO 9001-2000 Certified.
Doc
how much is the Dominator oil..... and can it be used with the wix filters instead of the EAO filter u said?
You can use the WIX or any filter of choice, not sure why you would want to, but I would not go further than 3000 street miles without Analysis using another filter.
The AMSOIL EA Series Filters are a 15 Micron Absolute filter, The Best you can buy, no other filter comes close.
Oil is the Life Blood of your car, the filter is the Kidney for that blood.
Doc