Eneos vs Amsoil
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Dominator is only available in qts right now and is 20 cents less per case of 12 (Dealer Cost) than SSO.
You can use the WIX or any filter of choice, not sure why you would want to, but I would not go further than 3000 street miles without Analysis using another filter.
The AMSOIL EA Series Filters are a 15 Micron Absolute filter, The Best you can buy, no other filter comes close.
Oil is the Life Blood of your car, the filter is the Kidney for that blood.
Doc
You can use the WIX or any filter of choice, not sure why you would want to, but I would not go further than 3000 street miles without Analysis using another filter.
The AMSOIL EA Series Filters are a 15 Micron Absolute filter, The Best you can buy, no other filter comes close.
Oil is the Life Blood of your car, the filter is the Kidney for that blood.
Doc
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Different oils for different applications....
SSO is an excellent oil for a Daily Driver and even occasional track use.
The Dominator is formulated for severe driving and racing conditions and has unique Friction Modifiers.
The SSO is a little better for cold weather starting, but there should be no problems with the Dominator oil to well below 0 degree F temps as it pours to less than -40
The Dominator is not formulated for extended drain intervals with a TBN of 8, as the SSO is with a TBN of 13.2, but should be capable of the max EVO recommended change of 5000 if the AMSOIL EAO Filter is used with no problem.
Of course, just as with ANY oil, Highly Modified and tracked engines will need to be changed by experience or better yet UOA by a ISO Certified Lab. Which, by the way, the 3 labs we use are all ISO 9001-2000 Certified.
Doc
SSO is an excellent oil for a Daily Driver and even occasional track use.
The Dominator is formulated for severe driving and racing conditions and has unique Friction Modifiers.
The SSO is a little better for cold weather starting, but there should be no problems with the Dominator oil to well below 0 degree F temps as it pours to less than -40
The Dominator is not formulated for extended drain intervals with a TBN of 8, as the SSO is with a TBN of 13.2, but should be capable of the max EVO recommended change of 5000 if the AMSOIL EAO Filter is used with no problem.
Of course, just as with ANY oil, Highly Modified and tracked engines will need to be changed by experience or better yet UOA by a ISO Certified Lab. Which, by the way, the 3 labs we use are all ISO 9001-2000 Certified.
Doc
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Just use Mobil1. Its great stuff,
regardless what the butt dyno tells you. Perception is a huge thing when it comes to questioning certain oils.
Just use Mobil1. Its great stuff,
regardless what the butt dyno tells you. Perception is a huge thing when it comes to questioning certain oils.
NOT ANOTHER OIL THREAD, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just use Mobil1. Its great stuff,
regardless what the butt dyno tells you. Perception is a huge thing when it comes to questioning certain oils.
Just use Mobil1. Its great stuff,
regardless what the butt dyno tells you. Perception is a huge thing when it comes to questioning certain oils.
So, which Mobil 1 would you use ?
Personally, I don't work off of perception, I like to use as much published test Data and/or personal test Data as possible.
Doc
With the amsoil EA Series Filters, wouldn't there be issues with getting clogged up too fast and then just bypassing?
It's going to take more pressure to push through a filter that is trying to catch every micron, unless its physicaly bigger then a normal evo oil filter for added flow. From what it looks like on the website, they seem to be a bit taller, but who knows what apps are being shown.
Got any evidence that these "EA" filters flow better?
It's going to take more pressure to push through a filter that is trying to catch every micron, unless its physicaly bigger then a normal evo oil filter for added flow. From what it looks like on the website, they seem to be a bit taller, but who knows what apps are being shown.
Got any evidence that these "EA" filters flow better?
With the amsoil EA Series Filters, wouldn't there be issues with getting clogged up too fast and then just bypassing?
It's going to take more pressure to push through a filter that is trying to catch every micron, unless its physicaly bigger then a normal evo oil filter for added flow. From what it looks like on the website, they seem to be a bit taller, but who knows what apps are being shown.
Got any evidence that these "EA" filters flow better?
It's going to take more pressure to push through a filter that is trying to catch every micron, unless its physicaly bigger then a normal evo oil filter for added flow. From what it looks like on the website, they seem to be a bit taller, but who knows what apps are being shown.
Got any evidence that these "EA" filters flow better?
The flow rate of the EA Series is the same as on the WIX... I held off promoting the EA Series Filter until my Filter Mgr checked it out and OK'd this and also discussed this with my former DSM Tech that I use.
The reason the EA Series flows so well while filtering so good is because of the Nano-Fibers. I will try to give you a visual here.. Please bear with me....
If you had a row of pencils and pulled every other one out you have X amount of space for oil to flow through.... Now, imagine if it were a needle covering the same sq. inches, and you pulled every other one out. You have a smaller space (Micron) but actually have as much or more flow because the smaller fibers do not block the path..
The media was developed and Patented by Donaldson for use in Desert Storm, especially the M-1 Tank. AMSOIL and Donaldson got together a few years ago for just truck oil filters. One of these was the ever popular Cummins which is used in the Dodge trucks, Motor Homes, Ford Box trucks, Boats, Fork Lifts and other applications. Donaldson was impressed with the AMSOIL marketing as we sold more Cummins filers in one year, than they ever had. After that, Donaldson and AMSOIL Partnered together and AMSOIL is the Only company to have the Media from Donaldson in Auto, Light Truck and MotorCycle applications.
The filters are conservatively rated by AMSOIL at 15 Micron and in actual testing, are less.
Doc
The flow rate of the EA Series is the same as on the WIX... I held off promoting the EA Series Filter until my Filter Mgr checked it out and OK'd this and also discussed this with my former DSM Tech that I use.
The reason the EA Series flows so well while filtering so good is because of the Nano-Fibers. I will try to give you a visual here.. Please bear with me....
If you had a row of pencils and pulled every other one out you have X amount of space for oil to flow through.... Now, imagine if it were a needle covering the same sq. inches, and you pulled every other one out. You have a smaller space (Micron) but actually have as much or more flow because the smaller fibers do not block the path..
The reason the EA Series flows so well while filtering so good is because of the Nano-Fibers. I will try to give you a visual here.. Please bear with me....
If you had a row of pencils and pulled every other one out you have X amount of space for oil to flow through.... Now, imagine if it were a needle covering the same sq. inches, and you pulled every other one out. You have a smaller space (Micron) but actually have as much or more flow because the smaller fibers do not block the path..
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eao.aspx
That is what I was describing, I just never took the time to learn how to post pics here...
Thanks for the help.
Doc
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The jury is out on the GC... Some say it is PAO Based, other sources say Hydro-Cracked... Same as the ENEOS oil... Would like to see ASTM Testing even if just wear and shear stability.
You don't have to buy a membership to get the best prices from AMSOIL, you just need the right contact that will sell Forum Members at Dealer Cost.
Doc
You don't have to buy a membership to get the best prices from AMSOIL, you just need the right contact that will sell Forum Members at Dealer Cost.
Doc
Doc, I'm interested in getting some AMSOIL. I've just PM'd u.
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