A $4500+ ball bearing green. You'd better have money to burn/insanely devoted to spool if you'd shell out that kind of cash for that turbo

 

 

well crap. i was basing waiting on the hta wheel because of the sti hta green flowing 57 lbs/min why will an evogreen with an hta wheel still only flow 47 lbs? thats like subaru gets an fp red styled green while we get a tme internalled style green. this is very disappointeing. i have a lot of thinking to do now whether or not that the hta wheel is for me =\

 

Kee1pride, remember, Robert DID say he was working on other turbos that will flow more air. His comment was something like 'Don't think that we're not also working on other turbos'. His post clearly says that some other things are in the works also. It's just that this particular thread is about the Green. Hope that helps, because we're also looking for our next 'move'.

 

^^ True dat.

 

The Suby Green, and Evo Green, are not the same turbo!

 

Dont forget the STI has 25% more displacement than we do warranting the increased flow

 

that has NOTHING to do with this, the Suby FP turbos and Evo FR turbos are not the same, at all, the ONLY things in common they have are the name, being made by FP, and that they're both Mitsu turbos. The Suby Green has 8 and 9 cm hotsides, the Red is a TD06...the Evo FP turbos are modded stock Evo turbos. I'm not trying to sound like a total d-bag, but people keep comparing these turbos and they have nothing to do with each other. Totally different turbos, they dont interchange, they're on totally different cars with completely different charachteristics.....so lets all just stop comparing them!

 

If you want a 57lbs a min turbo, get the HTA 3076 and call it a day. It flows 57 lbs a min and will spool up faster than most turbos that can flow in the low to mid 50's... Sure, there will be some lag, but it will be minimal on the .63 A/R exhaust housing. If you go read the subaru forums on that "new green" Its not really a green at all, its pretty laggy and has completely diffrent exhaust and compressor housings than the subaru fp green.

 

shut up already captain obvious. jesus. since you're crying like a baby, i'll awknowledge your post. I KNOW THEY ARE NOT THE SAME TURBO. I'VE HELD AN FP GREEN, AND FP RED AND AN EVOGREEN IN MY HANDS AND I HAVE MULTIPLE FRIENDS WHO HAVE ALL THESE TURBOS. I AM VERY WELL AWARE OF THEM BEING DIFFERENT.

HOW EVER THE EVO GREEN AND SUBARU FP GREEN BOTH FLOW 47 LBS / MIN, CORRECT? WOW THAT SURE SOUNDS PRETTY DAMN SIMILAR. THEN FP PUTS AN HTA WHEEL THE THE SUBARU GREEN AND IT FLOWS 10 MORE LBS OF AIR.

of course fp never confirmed that the same would happen for the evo when the hta wheel went in but now that they are confirming no more flow, im losing interest in buying this hta wheel rapidly.

jeez

 

Okay FP, where art thou Evo Red updates?

 

Quite amazing that people are already acting bitter about a turbo that has not been released to the public or performance testing reviewed. If the comparisons between the 35R and the 35RHTA are any guide, the top end power is similar with the HTA being somewhat better, but the mid range is where the HTA shines. I expect that will be the outcome with the Green as well.

That's what FP just said a few posts ago:

There are ALWAYS tradeoffs when you seek higher HP from a turbo. The corollary to higher lbs/minute is usually higher lag. Why would FP take the Green out of the perfect niche that it has developed, except to make it even better in that niche.

FP's history shows that it knows how to make a variety of high HP turbos in different flow ranges. If history is any guide, they will introduce another turbo for stock configuration applications. The Green HTA just does not happen to be that one.

 

How much peak boost have you been running? The Green just starts to wake up at 26 PSI.

 

Well, said!

 

Well I wouldnt have to say anything if there weren't so many people (not saying you in particular) in this thread that keep comparing them as THE SAME THING! And no, just because they flow the same amount of air, does that make them THAT similar. For a good example, check out the big 50 trim thread that was revived from the dead recently, and the comparo of the Green vs a 50 trim. They flow the same amount of air, but people are making better numbers (curve, spool, usable power) on the green, but yet.....same air flow. Unless the HTA Evo Green ends up being an 8.0cm TD05, they have nothing in common outside of the name. I seriously doubt that the HTA wheel, which was confirmed by FP themselves, is going to add another 10lbs of air! Sorry you caught the brunt of my frustration there but its annoying to see people not read the thread, and just post the comparisons and asking why our HTA green won't push more air since theirs does.

Back on topic - unless the HTA upgrade is a very small increase in price, I would pass on this turbo. Granted its spooling faster, which is great depending on your application (RR, autoX, street car) Heck, I still don't like the idea of shelling out nearly 2k for a 16g, especially after seeing whats capable with a stock 9 turbo with a great build. Lucas hit 480+, and the OKIX car hit what, like 450 on an extremely well built green? I'm NOT putting down what OKIX did at all, they obviously went a slightly different path, just saying, why spend 1700+ when 5-700$ from the for sale section is now possible to hit similar results. Now that FP is somewhat confirming a larger bolt on, I'll wait for those results first. Just hope its not priced at like 2700$