Me and My clutch job!
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Forst of all, no one is mod'ing the subframe. Just removing it to make the job easier.
90% of evo's have horrible alignment specs from the factory anyway. With the price of tires you should get your alignment checked more often than clutch swaps also.
Gotta love vendors that install over 100 Evo VIII-IX clutches per year.
Modify: to make basic or fundamental changes in often to give a new orientation
Removing and replacing the suframe gives new orientation to the geometry of the suspension and it is highly likely to take the car out of alignment.
Because many Evo's have poor alignment from the factory, the $125 alignment you paid for last time you got your tires changed is thrown out the window.
Modify: to make basic or fundamental changes in often to give a new orientation
Removing and replacing the suframe gives new orientation to the geometry of the suspension and it is highly likely to take the car out of alignment.
Because many Evo's have poor alignment from the factory, the $125 alignment you paid for last time you got your tires changed is thrown out the window.
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Gotta love vendors that install over 100 Evo VIII-IX clutches per year.
Modify: to make basic or fundamental changes in often to give a new orientation
Removing and replacing the suframe gives new orientation to the geometry of the suspension and it is highly likely to take the car out of alignment.
Because many Evo's have poor alignment from the factory, the $125 alignment you paid for last time you got your tires changed is thrown out the window.
Modify: to make basic or fundamental changes in often to give a new orientation
Removing and replacing the suframe gives new orientation to the geometry of the suspension and it is highly likely to take the car out of alignment.
Because many Evo's have poor alignment from the factory, the $125 alignment you paid for last time you got your tires changed is thrown out the window.
Also the $125 alignment you paid is out the window when you hit that pothole, when you decided to glance at the radio...
After everything I did I am going to need a tune up, tune, and alignment.....Heading the Auto x!
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Tranny in, T-case in, Sub-frame back up, and axles are in.....I have left is the pluggin everything back in. And putting my induction system back together......
Just to add to it, wasnt really hard, but I also did my own Fuel pump lol.
I am now an official DIY'er....I don't think I have to worry about Shop time prices anymore WAHOOOO!!
Just to add to it, wasnt really hard, but I also did my own Fuel pump lol.
I am now an official DIY'er....I don't think I have to worry about Shop time prices anymore WAHOOOO!!
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Gotta love vendors that install over 100 Evo VIII-IX clutches per year.
Modify: to make basic or fundamental changes in often to give a new orientation
Removing and replacing the suframe gives new orientation to the geometry of the suspension and it is highly likely to take the car out of alignment.
Because many Evo's have poor alignment from the factory, the $125 alignment you paid for last time you got your tires changed is thrown out the window.
Modify: to make basic or fundamental changes in often to give a new orientation
Removing and replacing the suframe gives new orientation to the geometry of the suspension and it is highly likely to take the car out of alignment.
Because many Evo's have poor alignment from the factory, the $125 alignment you paid for last time you got your tires changed is thrown out the window.
TTP,
The mounting points on our subframe do not have adjustments. We are not making "basic or fundamental changes" to the subframe. By taking off my oil cap and putting it back on the same way it came off; Does that mean I modified my oil cap and mitsu should void my warrenty?
Never paid for an alignment and I never will. I do them myself.
Sorry for being so negative towards you and your opinions, but I feel this is something people can do. The only thing I needed help with was a couple extra hands when taking the actual trans out and putting it back in. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do a clutch swap. I feel you are just putting in your negative/false comments to deter the average Joe from doing this for your own financial gain.
every DIYer, how-to manual, and the shop manual should include the instruction:
after lifting tranny into place, put 3 of the bolts that hold the tranny to the engine block in.
then click the TOB into place
then connect slave cylinder
depress clutch pedal a few times to ensure retainer clip is work right :P if pedal goes to floor and doesn't come back up, you only have to remove a couple bolts instead of doing the whole clutch job over again.
never ever should anyone assemble the car after lifting the tranny back in without checking that the retainer clip is still in place...
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every DIYer, how-to manual, and the shop manual should include the instruction:
after lifting tranny into place, put 3 of the bolts that hold the tranny to the engine block in.
then click the TOB into place
then connect slave cylinder
depress clutch pedal a few times to ensure retainer clip is work right :P if pedal goes to floor and doesn't come back up, you only have to remove a couple bolts instead of doing the whole clutch job over again.
never ever should anyone assemble the car after lifting the tranny back in without checking that the retainer clip is still in place...
after lifting tranny into place, put 3 of the bolts that hold the tranny to the engine block in.
then click the TOB into place
then connect slave cylinder
depress clutch pedal a few times to ensure retainer clip is work right :P if pedal goes to floor and doesn't come back up, you only have to remove a couple bolts instead of doing the whole clutch job over again.
never ever should anyone assemble the car after lifting the tranny back in without checking that the retainer clip is still in place...
I didnt know this, however I am aware now thanks.....*crosses fingers*
OP, I am glad to see you doing it yourself. With the write up here and at Evomoto it is very straight forward. Get some friends over, some beer, pizza, and make a day or two out of it.
TTP,
The mounting points on our subframe do not have adjustments. We are not making "basic or fundamental changes" to the subframe. By taking off my oil cap and putting it back on the same way it came off; Does that mean I modified my oil cap and mitsu should void my warrenty?
Never paid for an alignment and I never will. I do them myself.
Sorry for being so negative towards you and your opinions, but I feel this is something people can do. The only thing I needed help with was a couple extra hands when taking the actual trans out and putting it back in. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do a clutch swap. I feel you are just putting in your negative/false comments to deter the average Joe from doing this for your own financial gain.
TTP,
The mounting points on our subframe do not have adjustments. We are not making "basic or fundamental changes" to the subframe. By taking off my oil cap and putting it back on the same way it came off; Does that mean I modified my oil cap and mitsu should void my warrenty?
Never paid for an alignment and I never will. I do them myself.
Sorry for being so negative towards you and your opinions, but I feel this is something people can do. The only thing I needed help with was a couple extra hands when taking the actual trans out and putting it back in. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do a clutch swap. I feel you are just putting in your negative/false comments to deter the average Joe from doing this for your own financial gain.
By the way do you know of a Holiday Retirement community in Yardley? How far are you from Pittsburgh....<OT but ohwell....
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OP, I am glad to see you doing it yourself. With the write up here and at Evomoto it is very straight forward. Get some friends over, some beer, pizza, and make a day or two out of it.
TTP,
The mounting points on our subframe do not have adjustments. We are not making "basic or fundamental changes" to the subframe. By taking off my oil cap and putting it back on the same way it came off; Does that mean I modified my oil cap and mitsu should void my warrenty?
Never paid for an alignment and I never will. I do them myself.
Sorry for being so negative towards you and your opinions, but I feel this is something people can do. The only thing I needed help with was a couple extra hands when taking the actual trans out and putting it back in. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do a clutch swap. I feel you are just putting in your negative/false comments to deter the average Joe from doing this for your own financial gain.
TTP,
The mounting points on our subframe do not have adjustments. We are not making "basic or fundamental changes" to the subframe. By taking off my oil cap and putting it back on the same way it came off; Does that mean I modified my oil cap and mitsu should void my warrenty?
Never paid for an alignment and I never will. I do them myself.
Sorry for being so negative towards you and your opinions, but I feel this is something people can do. The only thing I needed help with was a couple extra hands when taking the actual trans out and putting it back in. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do a clutch swap. I feel you are just putting in your negative/false comments to deter the average Joe from doing this for your own financial gain.
I suppose the $35,000 laser alignment machines are worthless.
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Ive done prolly 15 clutch jobs out of my 1 car garage and have never had an issue, without dropping the subframe.
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Scott obviously you suggestions are not welcome here.....I hurt nothing by lowering the subframe lol give it up.... I am 140 lbs with noone to help me, I took on this job in hopes to learn something. And I have....I started this thread just to share my experience, like everyone else does....I didn't inquire about help....
I will keep in mind you attempt to help me with clip you were talking about, although it sounded like you were being smart......
I will keep in mind you attempt to help me with clip you were talking about, although it sounded like you were being smart......
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Lets find out if those $35,000 laser alignment machines are worthless. I am up for it. If you can find one local to me I will gladly drop my car off so they can check the alignment. Just to see how good my DIY alignment is with using nothing but string, 2 jack stands, a ruler, and a flat surface.
(add a level and a plumb bob for camber/caster) Just pay for the check to be done and if my way was not accurate you can proudly say the $35,000 machine is worth it!!!!!
Last edited by Markley02; Apr 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM.