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Old Oct 20, 2008, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrown
Maybe that's because the top graph is from a car with a Buschur race FMIC, Buschur Stage 3 head, JMFab intake manifold and more aggressive cams?

The bottom car has all stock pieces in those locations and milder Cosworth cams so of course it won't make as much power up top..
there is quite a difference in these two cars...

the red flows about 12-13lbs/min more than our turbo...

put it this way.. ours is flowing around a 50trim
the red is basically a 35R-ish sized turbo...,

so the 4.5-5 psi of the red over ours is a significant difference in airflow...

then also consider, the BBK (lite- this is our COMPRESSOR ONLY) has a head, strong cams, the best FMIC available......

not exactly apples to apples.... once charlies car has the turbine wheel upgrade (very shortly) we can pop up a retune chart and maybe some C16

the BBK car absolutely stomped every big turbo car on spool up and on average and yet only lost by 50whp to the highest hp car here running an HTA 35R and 100 octane...

just goes to show what the right combination of parts can produce.

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Chad,

will you guys port the hotside and offer any sort of coating service?

Secondly i have already asked this but got no answer. How much more lag and power will the Full BBK have?
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Originally Posted by EvolutionBoy67
Chad,

will you guys port the hotside and offer any sort of coating service?

Secondly i have already asked this but got no answer. How much more lag and power will the Full BBK have?
the full BBK is on calebs car and offers similar spool to the lite version... for autox i think the lite is the best setup, the shift response is amazing, like an on/off switch...

we will probably offer swaintech coating, but the turnaround time isnt as quick as we'd like.

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interesting info about the differences between the lite and the total kit. I think when it is switched out for the full kit and a layover of both graphs is done on the same car we will have a very good idea of what the differences are. I am verrrry excited to see and hopefully have this turbo soon! great work guys.
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Originally Posted by shuttlegoose
interesting info about the differences between the lite and the total kit. I think when it is switched out for the full kit and a layover of both graphs is done on the same car we will have a very good idea of what the differences are. I am verrrry excited to see and hopefully have this turbo soon! great work guys.
absolutely. I will over lay the graphs. I am just as curious as thew rest of people. Then drop in some c16 and turn up the wick
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true dat brother we can do that too
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Originally Posted by CBRD

then also consider, the BBK (lite- this is our COMPRESSOR ONLY) has a head, strong cams, the best FMIC available......
I am not trying to start a debate i am just curious to which FMIC you have found to be the best and since i am looking for that as my next upgrade. I am assuming you guys are building your own maybe?

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by MR Turco
I am not trying to start a debate i am just curious to which FMIC you have found to be the best and since i am looking for that as my next upgrade. I am assuming you guys are building your own maybe?

Thanks!
Buschur race intercooler I picked up about 20whp swapping from the previous core i had on the car

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Originally Posted by EvolutionBoy67
Chad,

will you guys port the hotside and offer any sort of coating service?

Secondly i have already asked this but got no answer. How much more lag and power will the Full BBK have?

I know you have to shave out a stock 9 turbo to fit the CRBD BBK wheels in, but does my 9 turbo with the hotside being ported even help because you do have to shave the turbo anyway?
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Originally Posted by Cali2MDevo8
I know you have to shave out a stock 9 turbo to fit the CRBD BBK wheels in, but does my 9 turbo with the hotside being ported even help because you do have to shave the turbo anyway?
That might help with the turbine wheel, but it won't matter for the compressor wheel.
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Originally Posted by Cali2MDevo8
I know you have to shave out a stock 9 turbo to fit the CRBD BBK wheels in, but does my 9 turbo with the hotside being ported even help because you do have to shave the turbo anyway?
It will only help in that there might be a slightly smaller pile of metal on the floor when they are done machining it for the new turbine wheel.
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Originally Posted by jbrown
It will only help in that there might be a slightly smaller pile of metal on the floor when they are done machining it for the new turbine wheel.
lol, it depends on how far out the port work was done.... the primary turbine opening will be machined on a cnc lathe.. for the turbine to drop in.

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Originally Posted by kreionic
Buschur race intercooler I picked up about 20whp swapping from the previous core i had on the car
I wonder how the BR Deluxe will perform with this turbo. That is what I have and don't really want to drop the $$$ on the Race at this point.


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