Question for David Buschur - missing power on pump gas "baby Bish"
I think this is a good thread... Its really helpful for the Evo community especially on selecting the right/functional parts for your Evo. The back to back test on some parts is really great. I myself made some bad decision of selecting parts
because of EvoM it help me go to the right way. Thanks for all the Guru's here and vendors that share their knowledge about the Evo.... without EvoM I would be still buying Ebay Parts!
because of EvoM it help me go to the right way. Thanks for all the Guru's here and vendors that share their knowledge about the Evo.... without EvoM I would be still buying Ebay Parts!
Last edited by evovin; May 16, 2008 at 09:22 AM.
Can't do it on stock block and ebay parts. Everything works together, and if everything is able to operate in a smooth and efficient way, then you can expect better numbers. Tell him to take a look at the parts list of some of the other pump gas cars buschur has done... there is a pattern. Its not easy making that kind of power on pump, and costs $$
Please if you can review his set up as compared to the BAD BISH and tell me how you feel his parts selections will vary from those of the Bad Bish in making power
Stubborn Customer - - - - Bad Bish
Stock Evo Head - - - - BR ported head
Stock valves - - - - BR Valves
Stock Crank - - - - BR balanced crank
Wesico off the shelf pistons - - - - BR Custom JE pistons
Rip off ebay Full Race copy - - - - BR Tubular header
manifold with .62 turbine housing - - - - BR turbo kit
on Gt35 R - - - -
BR Delux FMIC - - - - BR RACE FMIC
Cosworth mivec cams - - - - BR race cams
HKS TWIN FIRE on - - -
stock coils - - - - BR COP
Please give me your thoughts about how the customer's selected parts will inpact his ability to make pump gas power.
Stubborn Customer - - - - Bad Bish
Stock Evo Head - - - - BR ported head
Stock valves - - - - BR Valves
Stock Crank - - - - BR balanced crank
Wesico off the shelf pistons - - - - BR Custom JE pistons
Rip off ebay Full Race copy - - - - BR Tubular header
manifold with .62 turbine housing - - - - BR turbo kit
on Gt35 R - - - -
BR Delux FMIC - - - - BR RACE FMIC
Cosworth mivec cams - - - - BR race cams
HKS TWIN FIRE on - - -
stock coils - - - - BR COP
Please give me your thoughts about how the customer's selected parts will inpact his ability to make pump gas power.
1. Ported heads will make a HUGE difference at big boost. The fact that you need to ask David to tell you this scares me.
2. A ****ty exhaust manifold and small exhaust housing will obviously make much less peak power than a well designed manifold with a larger A/R, the bigger the A/R the more efficient the turbo will be, lower back pressure, happier at higher boost. Again, you know this.....I hope.
It isn't rocket science Al, port his head, put a bigger hotside on it, put some bigger cams in it and your their.
You cannot expect to make the "same" power setup to setup even if only one or two parts are different, tell him to change those things and youll be damn close.
Scorke
Oh also Al a huge part of this equation is the tuning.
If you send him to Dave there is no doubt he will pick up power, why don't you send him to your Master/Mentor/Daddy to make real power.
Scorke
If you send him to Dave there is no doubt he will pick up power, why don't you send him to your Master/Mentor/Daddy to make real power.
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Al are you serious?
1. Ported heads will make a HUGE difference at big boost. The fact that you need to ask David to tell you this scares me.
2. A ****ty exhaust manifold and small exhaust housing will obviously make much less peak power than a well designed manifold with a larger A/R, the bigger the A/R the more efficient the turbo will be, lower back pressure, happier at higher boost. Again, you know this.....I hope.
It isn't rocket science Al, port his head, put a bigger hotside on it, put some bigger cams in it and your their.
You cannot expect to make the "same" power setup to setup even if only one or two parts are different, tell him to change those things and youll be damn close.
Scorke
1. Ported heads will make a HUGE difference at big boost. The fact that you need to ask David to tell you this scares me.
2. A ****ty exhaust manifold and small exhaust housing will obviously make much less peak power than a well designed manifold with a larger A/R, the bigger the A/R the more efficient the turbo will be, lower back pressure, happier at higher boost. Again, you know this.....I hope.
It isn't rocket science Al, port his head, put a bigger hotside on it, put some bigger cams in it and your their.
You cannot expect to make the "same" power setup to setup even if only one or two parts are different, tell him to change those things and youll be damn close.
Scorke
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Of course I know all of this and more and have explained this all to the customer but what ever I was saying apparently is not registering
This is why I am seeking the input of Master Buschur as perhaps with his input and the inpout of others like yourself the customer will see the light
NUMBER 1- i AM THE STUBBORN CUSTOMER.
NUMBER 2- i WONT WAIT 4 WEEKS FOR SHEARER FAB TO MAKE BUSCHUR A MANIFOLD TO RESELL.
NUMBER 3- THE NUMBERS i AM COMPARING TO ARE SWITZER'S STRAIGHT GT35R TURBO WITH MILD HEADWORK MAKING 627AWHP ON A DYNOJET ON STRIAHGT PUMP GAS NO METHANOL
NUMBER 4- I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO EXPECT 620AWHP PLUS WITH A DYNOJET WITH MY SET BARE IN MIND i RUN A DOUBLE NOZZLE METHANOL SHOT.
NUMBER 5- I DO NOT HAVE AN HTA TURBO AND DONT PLAN ON HAVING ONE EVER
NUMBER 6- IF I WANTED A BUSCHUR CAR I WOULD HAVE SENT IT TO BUSCHUR
NUMBER 7- IF THIS CAR DOESNT MAKE 620AWHP ON PUMP/METH BY THIS EVENING IM SENDING IT TO SWITZER.
NUMBER 8- IF ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT MY WHOLE ORDEAL PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME AND I WILL TELL YOU ALL THE WHOLE STORY
NUMBER 9- ILL BE ON A MUSTANG DYNO TOMM MORNING TO MAKE SURE THE POWER IS REAL AND NOT TURNED DOWN TWO MINUTES AFTER BEING ON THE DYNO LIKE EVERY OTHER TUNE
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By way of clarification
The manifold is nolt the ebay full race copy
Rather it is a custom crafted unit which happens to resemble the ebay full race copy
Also the Bad Bish has the HTA gt35
The manifold is nolt the ebay full race copy
Rather it is a custom crafted unit which happens to resemble the ebay full race copy
Also the Bad Bish has the HTA gt35
Wow, my head hurts after reading that...
NUMBER 1- i AM THE STUBBORN CUSTOMER.
NUMBER 2- i WONT WAIT 4 WEEKS FOR SHEARER FAB TO MAKE BUSCHUR A MANIFOLD TO RESELL.
NUMBER 3- THE NUMBERS i AM COMPARING TO ARE SWITZER'S STRAIGHT GT35R TURBO WITH MILD HEADWORK MAKING 627AWHP ON A DYNOJET ON STRIAHGT PUMP GAS NO METHANOL
NUMBER 4- I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO EXPECT 620AWHP PLUS WITH A DYNOJET WITH MY SET BARE IN MIND i RUN A DOUBLE NOZZLE METHANOL SHOT.
NUMBER 5- I DO NOT HAVE AN HTA TURBO AND DONT PLAN ON HAVING ONE EVER
NUMBER 6- IF I WANTED A BUSCHUR CAR I WOULD HAVE SENT IT TO BUSCHUR
NUMBER 7- IF THIS CAR DOESNT MAKE 620AWHP ON PUMP/METH BY THIS EVENING IM SENDING IT TO SWITZER.
NUMBER 8- IF ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT MY WHOLE ORDEAL PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME AND I WILL TELL YOU ALL THE WHOLE STORY
NUMBER 9- ILL BE ON A MUSTANG DYNO TOMM MORNING TO MAKE SURE THE POWER IS REAL AND NOT TURNED DOWN TWO MINUTES AFTER BEING ON THE DYNO LIKE EVERY OTHER TUNE
SUMAN
NUMBER 1- i AM THE STUBBORN CUSTOMER.
NUMBER 2- i WONT WAIT 4 WEEKS FOR SHEARER FAB TO MAKE BUSCHUR A MANIFOLD TO RESELL.
NUMBER 3- THE NUMBERS i AM COMPARING TO ARE SWITZER'S STRAIGHT GT35R TURBO WITH MILD HEADWORK MAKING 627AWHP ON A DYNOJET ON STRIAHGT PUMP GAS NO METHANOL
NUMBER 4- I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO EXPECT 620AWHP PLUS WITH A DYNOJET WITH MY SET BARE IN MIND i RUN A DOUBLE NOZZLE METHANOL SHOT.
NUMBER 5- I DO NOT HAVE AN HTA TURBO AND DONT PLAN ON HAVING ONE EVER
NUMBER 6- IF I WANTED A BUSCHUR CAR I WOULD HAVE SENT IT TO BUSCHUR
NUMBER 7- IF THIS CAR DOESNT MAKE 620AWHP ON PUMP/METH BY THIS EVENING IM SENDING IT TO SWITZER.
NUMBER 8- IF ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT MY WHOLE ORDEAL PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM ME AND I WILL TELL YOU ALL THE WHOLE STORY
NUMBER 9- ILL BE ON A MUSTANG DYNO TOMM MORNING TO MAKE SURE THE POWER IS REAL AND NOT TURNED DOWN TWO MINUTES AFTER BEING ON THE DYNO LIKE EVERY OTHER TUNE
SUMAN
Scorke, come now, he was asking the questions retorically. You didn't realize Al had already made these points to the customer, and the customer isn't listening? 
That's the whole point of the thread. You answering some of the main issues is exactly what Al is trying to induce so that maybe the "stubborn customer" will take heed.
That's the whole point of the thread. You answering some of the main issues is exactly what Al is trying to induce so that maybe the "stubborn customer" will take heed.
I think David's hands are full... Why not just talk over the phone?
Al, you told your "customer" what he needs, I just dont belive this guy can go fast without dumping $ out of his pocket to make good power.
Al, you told your "customer" what he needs, I just dont belive this guy can go fast without dumping $ out of his pocket to make good power.
All Al's posts are always lies. He exaggerates boost levels. Example my fp99hta post he said that was at 42psi it was more like 50 psi. And when he means pump gas he means with methanol also dont believe anything he says.
PS MY MANIFOLD WAS CUSTOM MADE NOT EBAY.
PS why start a @sshole thread pick up the phone and call Buschur. Im sick of your mouth
You want to compare my set up compare it to SWITZER.
PS MY MANIFOLD WAS CUSTOM MADE NOT EBAY.
PS why start a @sshole thread pick up the phone and call Buschur. Im sick of your mouth
You want to compare my set up compare it to SWITZER.
