New FP White turbo
OMG....*****This just in, Sorry to burst FP Whites bubble but the FP RED IS HEREhttp https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...&postcount=187
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Originally Posted by Indy Evo
The White will be my choice for a daily driver. It does everything I need it to do and then some. The Green is up for sale. Indy
Originally Posted by Indy Evo
The White will be my choice for a daily driver. It does everything I need it to do and then some. The Green is up for sale. Indy
Originally posted by evorecordsetter
you must be one of those people that has to have new things for no other reason than just getting something new. the green spools so fast, that you will not even notice the white being any faster, and you will notice the loss of top end. seems like a silly thing to do. the green has retardedly good spool, and your going to get rid of it, for a 200(or however much faster it is) rpm, and lose 20 hp(of whatever the exact #'s are) WORTHLESS.
you must be one of those people that has to have new things for no other reason than just getting something new. the green spools so fast, that you will not even notice the white being any faster, and you will notice the loss of top end. seems like a silly thing to do. the green has retardedly good spool, and your going to get rid of it, for a 200(or however much faster it is) rpm, and lose 20 hp(of whatever the exact #'s are) WORTHLESS.
That's interesting conceptual thinking, and bona-fide "big turbo" guy talk, but on the flipside, there are only three E85 stations in my entire state. It's been this way for almost two years. Buying a daily driven turbo for a fuel supply that may never come is stupid. "Talk is cheap"? Did you miss several pages of technical data that Tom and other provided? Sorry but honestly the cheapest talk in here is yours.
This is your second time posting on this thread using "run with the big boys" rhetoric on why this turbo isn't for you. If you have established that for yourself, why bother, unless you are going to share some technical explanation on why you don't think this turbo is right for anyone else as well?
This is your second time posting on this thread using "run with the big boys" rhetoric on why this turbo isn't for you. If you have established that for yourself, why bother, unless you are going to share some technical explanation on why you don't think this turbo is right for anyone else as well?
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you must be one of those people that has to have new things for no other reason than just getting something new. the green spools so fast, that you will not even notice the white being any faster, and you will notice the loss of top end. seems like a silly thing to do. the green has retardedly good spool, and your going to get rid of it, for a 200(or however much faster it is) rpm, and lose 20 hp(of whatever the exact #'s are) WORTHLESS.
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Get it now? 
Just when I was about to order up a white, you say the best is yet to come.
Oh well, guess I'll just run the IX for now and wait to see what comes out in the future. As fun as fast spooling high torque is, I think I still like the top end pull of a 70+ lb/min turbo better.
When is there going to be a thread about the 60lb/min mentioned by Robert???
Oh well, guess I'll just run the IX for now and wait to see what comes out in the future. As fun as fast spooling high torque is, I think I still like the top end pull of a 70+ lb/min turbo better.
When is there going to be a thread about the 60lb/min mentioned by Robert???
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Here's a little more graphing white vs 1580 with some flow data. If you think the 1580 is better by strictly looking at mass flow you would be very wrong. The 1580 is MAXED OUT, the white is not. Converted into volumetric flow the white is substantially higher at a lower PR and boost due toi the elevated inlet temps of the white. The cards are stacked in the 1580's favor via 25C cooler inlet temps, higher PR and boost pressure, but the white still kicks its *** in efficiency by a large margin. This is a maxed out 1580 vs a white cruising along. Note the exhaust pressures- THIS IS THE SAME TURBINE WHEEL AND EXACT SAME EXH HOUSING!!!
Here's the same strip chart but with data displayed in a different way, the vertical cursor in the strip chart above now shows up as two crosshairs. I see this by clicking the tab on the above screen called Mixture Map (scatter graph). This is NOT a true efficiency calculation (I2 will not accept the maths) but something we call Simple Efficiency, it works good to see how things are in transition and live. The 1580 has nosedived, the white has another few lb/min to go before it hits the wall.
Here's the same strip chart but with data displayed in a different way, the vertical cursor in the strip chart above now shows up as two crosshairs. I see this by clicking the tab on the above screen called Mixture Map (scatter graph). This is NOT a true efficiency calculation (I2 will not accept the maths) but something we call Simple Efficiency, it works good to see how things are in transition and live. The 1580 has nosedived, the white has another few lb/min to go before it hits the wall.
Last edited by GrocMax; Jul 7, 2008 at 06:26 PM.
How much does this new Red flow? It put down 530 but at 38lbs... that much boost obviously would require a fully built car... i dont see the red making good power on stock motor cars/ lower boost levels say 28-30 psi ??
Good luck with the sale Indy, that green should move very quickly mate.
Exciting times ahead, are you going a cam with the new purchase? With your exact set up being a DD, that should have some mumbo in the midrange
.Please keep us updated with the new mani/White combo, lucky you.
Cheers Steve
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