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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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The Greddy Profec B EBC, get rid of it, get rid of it, get rid of it. Have I said this enough? With meth I had that POS at 100% DC and only got 29.5 PSI out of that thing. There's better MBC out there that will do a better job making and holding boost IMO!
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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The difference in price between the stock 9 turbo and a green is $900. Why would you jump through hoops like porting porting instead of just bolting on an FP GREEN?

400whp on an EVO8 stock turbo really isn't that common. In fact its not even all that common on an EVO9. Most of the dyno's I see at the 400whp level are guys that are running an unreliable tune or have BS numbers that don't result in corresponding trap speeds / track times.

Go look at the top 20 stock turbo powered cars in the drag forum. My nine with only TBE and TUNE fits in to that matrix. Where are all these 400whp cars?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hokiruu
How many of these "400whp IX turbo" Evos aren't IX's though? The MIVEC head does make a difference, especially when you are pushing a smaller turbo to its limits.

You didn't mention what fuel you plan to use. On pump, it's not going to happen, and is unlikely even on a Green. Race gas, E85, or meth, and you can get closer.

I plan on using 93 oct + Meth
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LilRico
The Greddy Profec B EBC, get rid of it, get rid of it, get rid of it. Have I said this enough? With meth I had that POS at 100% DC and only got 29.5 PSI out of that thing. There's better MBC out there that will do a better job making and holding boost IMO!
Yup, I'm not a big fan either. I have it all the way up and with the weather we are having I'm getting 23psi and this EBC is cranked all the way up.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Jeske
The difference in price between the stock 9 turbo and a green is $900. Why would you jump through hoops like porting porting instead of just bolting on an FP GREEN?

400whp on an EVO8 stock turbo really isn't that common. In fact its not even all that common on an EVO9. Most of the dyno's I see at the 400whp level are guys that are running an unreliable tune or have BS numbers that don't result in corresponding trap speeds / track times.

Go look at the top 20 stock turbo powered cars in the drag forum. My nine with only TBE and TUNE fits in to that matrix. Where are all these 400whp cars?

Hmmm I may have to go fpgreen and still do the porting stuff. I'm all about maximizing the setup to the fullest potential.

I'm not going to argue with you, and I'm not going to hunt all the people down. I'm not saying it is a common thing, but you do see people out there that's putting the power down and their track times reflect. Member RYU is making some killer power/times.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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It's possible, on a IX/MIVEC head, with an aggressive tune, on race gas, with a huge boost spike, on a Dynojet, in good weather, before the car got too hot. But if you want that kind of power, it makes sense to be able to do it solidly, consistently, and safely. The Green is the best way to achieve that.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by hokiruu
It's possible, on a IX/MIVEC head, with an aggressive tune, on race gas, with a huge boost spike, on a Dynojet, in good weather, before the car got too hot. But if you want that kind of power, it makes sense to be able to do it solidly, consistently, and safely. The Green is the best way to achieve that.
Okay, Okay, let me rephrase this then. I am looking to maximize the ix turbo setup regardless of the power level. I'm just wanting it to run very well. Power numbers don't mean a whole lot to me, I was just giving you guys an example to show what I'm looking for.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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Yup, I'm not a big fan either. I have it all the way up and with the weather we are having I'm getting 23psi and this EBC is cranked all the way up.
Yeah man, it's not worth a damn, but yes, if you're going to be using 93 + meth I just read, 400 is simple enough and would be a very nice TQ monster, plus daily driver. Get some 272 cams though... I feel that would help better on top end as opposed to what you have now. Just my opinion. GL
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JKD
Okay, Okay, let me rephrase this then. I am looking to maximize the ix turbo setup regardless of the power level. I'm just wanting it to run very well. Power numbers don't mean a whole lot to me, I was just giving you guys an example to show what I'm looking for.
Now THAT sounds like a more objective goal. Just make sure you have some good failsafes on that meth.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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Man its possible. Im in the same boat your are. I was at 370whp on the stock 8 turbo. My times are in the sig. I now have stock 9 turbo, Ported Intake Mani, 65mm Throttle Body. Meth and Injectors are sitting here waiting to get put on when i go for my tune. I dont know how much im going to come back home with at the wheels, but i know all that **** is going to add more than 30!!!
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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the profec in particular does not work too well with internal gates and high boost. Most people here will recommend a manual boost controller, like the ones that Buschur sells.

Originally Posted by c_sautter
I'm looking to maximize my IX also, and I have a Greddy Profec B spec II that's still sitting in the box. If it's as bad as some of you say, what would be a reliable suggestion?
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LilRico
The Greddy Profec B EBC, get rid of it, get rid of it, get rid of it. Have I said this enough? With meth I had that POS at 100% DC and only got 29.5 PSI out of that thing. There's better MBC out there that will do a better job making and holding boost IMO!
Funny, im spiking 33psi and holding 23psi at redline with mine
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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you DO NOT need a bigger throttle body, just need to port the stock one, you dont need a bigger TB unless you're pushing 500+
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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I use a Hallman Pro RX MBC Its one of the single mods that I have on my car that I never had to mess with. I spike 35lbs and it holds 24lbs to redline and thats with the stock WG actuator. I know that people really have a good experience with the Greddy E-01 and the HKS EVC 6.
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RyuEvoIX
Funny, im spiking 33psi and holding 23psi at redline with mine
I can do that ever now and then at night with the profec, but with what I have now 35 PSI is easy.... and best of all the ECU is controlling my boost

Originally Posted by Evo2wIsh4
I use a Hallman Pro RX MBC Its one of the single mods that I have on my car that I never had to mess with. I spike 35lbs and it holds 24lbs to redline and thats with the stock WG actuator. I know that people really have a good experience with the Greddy E-01 and the HKS EVC 6.
And it's also one I would recommend as well to anyone else asking for a MBC.
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