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View Poll Results: What were your results of the 1x1 method?
Headstuds installed by Self ; No issues
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46.55%
Headstuds installed by Self ; Have/Had Problems
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8.62%
Headstuds installed by Reputable shop ; No issues
42
36.21%
Headstuds installed by Reputable shop ; Have/Had Problems
10
8.62%
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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If your ARP Headstuds were Installed 1x1 Please Vote!

-Although we all know this is not the proper method of installing; This thread is to analyze the success rate of the "1x1 Method"

Please vote only if your head studs were installed 1x1.
If you vote no issues, make sure to check behind the block for an oil leak because this can be easily overlooked if your not looking for it. it just leaks slowly and is never enough to reach the ground.

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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Well whatever were suppose to vote on, I did mine 1X1 and never had a problem with a 3065 at 30psi.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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sorry voting is now ready.. i got caught up in something
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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i really don't understand why anyone would do it like this... (1x1). There is a point of torquing the headbolts (in this case 'studs') in a specific pattern which typically spreads the stress from the inside outwards to insure a proper seal. Kind of like when you put a sticker on a window and squeeze the air bubbles out to the edge. (i know thats a simple analogy but it gets people to understand)

Is it possible to get a good seal w/ the 1x1 method? Sure... but its also possible to slap a sticker on a window w/out air bubbles by slapping it on also... just highly unlikely it will work out for you everytime. Just as you would squeegy that out... you should torque down the head studs from the center on out just like the torque order suggests. (i learned my lesson w/ countless headgasket changes on my previous turbocharged Honda and MR2 / Supras)

Im sure you can get away w/ it... just like many other shortcuts. But it just takes that little bit of oil or air to seep in to ONE of the areas where a torqued bolt should be and you've got yourself a mess. Also... you are changing how the torque/stress is placed on the head to the block and by the time you are done.. that head may or may not be placing the torque down onto the gasket/block like it should be. Personally i wouldnt short cut this particular thing. I'd do it to any other seal/gasket that doesnt have an oil/water jacket running through it...
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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i did mine, No problems GT35R 26psi to 32psi daily. installed at 38k, now have 70k with sign of problems.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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i've already established this is not the proper way to go. This is just an analysis of the method by people that already have it done.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by itzcharlez
i've already established this is not the proper way to go. This is just an analysis of the method by people that already have it done.
right on... not aimed at you. Just commenting on the act itself. I agree... this poll should be interesting to see. Who knows, maybe the majority was successful and worth the gamble?
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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I put mine on around 15K with a WR turbo at 27psi, then moved to a 3065 at 30psi, then back down to a IX turbo at 22psi and never had a problem. The engine was ripped out at 52k for my build in a different thread.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TakaseEVOIXSE
right on... not aimed at you. Just commenting on the act itself. I agree... this poll should be interesting to see. Who knows, maybe the majority was successful and worth the gamble?
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 03:40 AM
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i know more people than this has done them. bumpp
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 03:44 AM
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I know 4 people locally that have done the 1x1 method with no issues. I was @ 500whp for 30k miles @ 30psi and had 0 issues.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 06:05 AM
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Tons have done this without issue. Heck Buschur even does the rod bolts 1X1
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 06:11 AM
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Had mine done 1x1. put 35K on the car...No issues. BTW, I drove the car hard.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 06:14 AM
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If done properly 1x1 it will last with out any issues.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 06:15 AM
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Do it with the motor TOTALLY cooled down and you shouldnt have ANY problems if done correctly
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