EPM 02 Dump hitting Radiator??
Oct 16, 2008, 06:29 AM
#16
Evolving Member
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Perryville, MD
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i had to cut mine havent had it rewelded yet or modded yet. working on that with EPM now Caleb from CBRD sent me pics of it and i sent the over to Q@evopowermods and there working on it for me to see what they can do. if they say nothing i may just have CB mod it to dump back to the ground.
Oct 16, 2008, 02:47 PM
#17
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (23)
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In the Shop in Alabama
Posts: 812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There are so many outside scenarios and issues which effect fitment with any O2 Housing. We have honestly had about 7-10 issues with over 150 total units sold worldwide. We are sorry some of you are having these issues. But as I mentioned there are outside influences out of our control that affect how the EPM O2 Dump fits.
As an example, One of the customer's had had a front-end collision which effected the front radiator support beam. Which in turn moved the front radiator beam backwards, also moving the radiator backwards, hence the fitment issue.
Another customer had an aftermarket Radiator and we were not told about. The Megan Racing manifold is known to not fit correctly, and we have had various issues with this setup. Some customers report back great fitment and others report back a tight scenario, but they all have ended up working out to the customer’s satisfaction.
We have test fitted 2 different Megan Racing O2 housings on our JIG and they both fit very differently. We used the OEM/Stock cast O2 housing to fabricate our JIG. We have tested 3 different OEM O2 Housings on our JIG and all 3 OEM units fit perfectly. Our Fabrication JIG is dead on as for fitment. We work tirelessly to be consistent with our products, however there are influences as I mentioned that are just out of our control.
Also FP sells with their FP RED (as an Option) with a new extended J Pipe(Turbo outlet pipe) which we were not told about until just recently. This J Pipe is made by an outside company and we don't know about the consistency of the design or production of this J Pipe(Turbo outlet pipe). I have had one here in the shop for a mock-up with our Version#1 and it fit fine when test fitted on our shop Evo. Which leads me to believe that
another outside issue is at hand here with that setup.
If anyone has ever checked out the fitment of our EPM O2 Dump Version#1 you will see a very tight area with about a 1/4 inch of clearance in any direction. That's not much room to work in by any standards. We suggest our Version#1 for any FP RED customer because of the J Pipe issue.
There are literally Dozens of various Aftermarket parts scenarios out there that we have to contend with. Company A's LICP teamed with company B's Downpipe, along with Company D's FMIntercooler. We have made an honest effort and a very time consuming test fitment with so many differing brands of this part and that part .
Lastly We at EPM do guarantee our products, if anyone has issues all they have to do is contact us for a solution. We will not leave you hanging like other companies do. We want to be in the Evo Game for a very long time, it has taken us lots of effort to garner a good reputation and we intend to keep it that way. Again; if anyone has Any issue let me know and we will work with you to alleviate it to your satisfaction.
As an example, One of the customer's had had a front-end collision which effected the front radiator support beam. Which in turn moved the front radiator beam backwards, also moving the radiator backwards, hence the fitment issue.
Another customer had an aftermarket Radiator and we were not told about. The Megan Racing manifold is known to not fit correctly, and we have had various issues with this setup. Some customers report back great fitment and others report back a tight scenario, but they all have ended up working out to the customer’s satisfaction.
We have test fitted 2 different Megan Racing O2 housings on our JIG and they both fit very differently. We used the OEM/Stock cast O2 housing to fabricate our JIG. We have tested 3 different OEM O2 Housings on our JIG and all 3 OEM units fit perfectly. Our Fabrication JIG is dead on as for fitment. We work tirelessly to be consistent with our products, however there are influences as I mentioned that are just out of our control.
Also FP sells with their FP RED (as an Option) with a new extended J Pipe(Turbo outlet pipe) which we were not told about until just recently. This J Pipe is made by an outside company and we don't know about the consistency of the design or production of this J Pipe(Turbo outlet pipe). I have had one here in the shop for a mock-up with our Version#1 and it fit fine when test fitted on our shop Evo. Which leads me to believe that
another outside issue is at hand here with that setup.
If anyone has ever checked out the fitment of our EPM O2 Dump Version#1 you will see a very tight area with about a 1/4 inch of clearance in any direction. That's not much room to work in by any standards. We suggest our Version#1 for any FP RED customer because of the J Pipe issue.
There are literally Dozens of various Aftermarket parts scenarios out there that we have to contend with. Company A's LICP teamed with company B's Downpipe, along with Company D's FMIntercooler. We have made an honest effort and a very time consuming test fitment with so many differing brands of this part and that part .
Lastly We at EPM do guarantee our products, if anyone has issues all they have to do is contact us for a solution. We will not leave you hanging like other companies do. We want to be in the Evo Game for a very long time, it has taken us lots of effort to garner a good reputation and we intend to keep it that way. Again; if anyone has Any issue let me know and we will work with you to alleviate it to your satisfaction.
Oct 16, 2008, 02:50 PM
#18
i can honestly say we have had an issue with all of the ones we have installed... maybe 4-5....
not terrible, but issues nontheless...
in my opinion the dump tube doesnt need to be as big as it is.... which would make fitment alot easier....
its a great product for those that want it, but a small revision to pipe diameter wouldnt hurt performance in my opinion.
cb
not terrible, but issues nontheless...
in my opinion the dump tube doesnt need to be as big as it is.... which would make fitment alot easier....
its a great product for those that want it, but a small revision to pipe diameter wouldnt hurt performance in my opinion.
cb
Oct 16, 2008, 04:16 PM
#22
Evolving Member
iTrader: (16)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Cleveland, TN
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
can someone post up a pic of their epm o2 dump with an fp red I just wanna see ..
I currently have V2 on my car but my red will be here hopefully in the next week or two I am a little concerned about the fitment at this point with the radiator, based off what some of you are saying
But it fit perfectly with my stock 8 turbo and not even close to my radiator
I currently have V2 on my car but my red will be here hopefully in the next week or two I am a little concerned about the fitment at this point with the radiator, based off what some of you are saying
But it fit perfectly with my stock 8 turbo and not even close to my radiator
Oct 16, 2008, 04:21 PM
#23
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (23)
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In the Shop in Alabama
Posts: 812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Version #2 will not hit any radiator, it takes a totally different route than than Our Version#1. If you have the FP Red coming, the only issue is with the J Pipe. Contact me if you have any concerns..
Oct 16, 2008, 04:33 PM
#26
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (23)
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In the Shop in Alabama
Posts: 812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I really don't understand your question.
quote-"so the v.1 doesn't on anything?"--end quote
If you have ever looked into an Evo engine bay in that area upper front behind the radiator you can see just how tight that area is. The clearance around our Version#1 is 1/4 inch all the way around in 360 degrees. You have the WG actuator, the Turbo Outlet(JPipe), the Radiator, the LowerIntercoolerPipe. thats all 4 corners with only 1/4 inch clearance. You can easily see if anything is outta whack, like maybe the WG Actuator is not aligned properly, the LICp has had it's supports cutoff and has moved, etc..then you have clearance issues.
We guarantee our products Plain and Simple. I would think a quick search on our main thread will show if our customers are satisfied or not. I will let the thread speak for it's self.
Oct 16, 2008, 04:55 PM
#29
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (23)
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In the Shop in Alabama
Posts: 812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
---mugen777---
yes we talked about this over the phone I believe..yes the stock J Pipe is a great fit with our Version#2....no probs at all....it is really the routing of the FP Extended J Pipe the OEM J Pipe that FP sells works great with our O2 Housing. So many setups...lol...it's all up here in my head..somewhere...if I get those cob webs outta the way..
yes we talked about this over the phone I believe..yes the stock J Pipe is a great fit with our Version#2....no probs at all....it is really the routing of the FP Extended J Pipe the OEM J Pipe that FP sells works great with our O2 Housing. So many setups...lol...it's all up here in my head..somewhere...if I get those cob webs outta the way..
Oct 16, 2008, 04:58 PM
#30
Evolving Member
iTrader: (16)
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Cleveland, TN
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
---mugen777---
yes we talked about this over the phone I believe..yes the stock J Pipe is a great fit with our Version#2....no probs at all....it is really the routing of the FP Extended J Pipe the OEM J Pipe that FP sells works great with our O2 Housing. So many setups...lol...it's all up here in my head..somewhere...if I get those cob webs outta the way..
yes we talked about this over the phone I believe..yes the stock J Pipe is a great fit with our Version#2....no probs at all....it is really the routing of the FP Extended J Pipe the OEM J Pipe that FP sells works great with our O2 Housing. So many setups...lol...it's all up here in my head..somewhere...if I get those cob webs outta the way..
... thanks again it will be on the dyno in a few weeks and ill be reppin the epm o2