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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 10:00 PM
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I'll squash that one right there. I guarantee you that you WILL need a dual pump set-up to run E85 with a FP Red, plain and simple, no questions. You need more fuel when running E85 than you do when running C16.
Wrong - Seen single at 489/447 and red just last week. Others here doing similar.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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I am still using one 255 Walbro Fuel Pump and four PTE 780cc Fuel Injectors.

On the FP Green at 32~33 psi on C16, the Injectors were at 63~65 percent, with 451 whp.
Now, on the Red, at 36 psi on C16, no problems with fuel on the same Walbro Pump and 780cc Injectors, 525 plus whp.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Double pumper and PTE 1200s here. EvoRed on E85.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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AEM would be a luxury, but no it is not needed, just a suggestion. but you should for sure get the double pumper and at least 1200's, PTE. sure you can run race gas on smaller injectors, but E85 uses alot more fuel than C16 just because of the chemical make up
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sspaladin28
Wrong - Seen single at 489/447 and red just last week. Others here doing similar.
Originally Posted by 04AWDTURBOEVO
I am still using one 255 Walbro Fuel Pump and four PTE 780cc Fuel Injectors.

On the FP Green at 32~33 psi on C16, the Injectors were at 63~65 percent, with 451 whp.
Now, on the Red, at 36 psi on C16, no problems with fuel on the same Walbro Pump and 780cc Injectors, 525 plus whp.

E85, not C16. E85, not C16. Have any of you tuned on E85 before? Just curious. You will need a double pumper to fuel the Red, unless you want to run 1200cc injectors at 99% IDC
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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ok so im going to go with double pumper br setup and PTE 1000s. do they make 1200? the vendor has 1000's or 1600's for PTE nothing in between.

will IDC be ok on 1000s as long as there is a dual walbro?
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SpoolnupTuning
I have found big turbo cars do not need a dual pumper set-up untill they pass 550 range on e-85!
We maxed out RC1200's and a single walboro at 465whp on our mustang dyno with a PT6262 on E85. Maxed out as in total loss of fuel control up top.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
We maxed out RC1200's and a single walboro at 465whp on our mustang dyno with a PT6262 on E85. Maxed out as in total loss of fuel control up top.
465whp on a mustang ~~ 550whp on a dynojet, seen it with my own eyes!
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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My 1200 RC's were maxed out when I was tuning my Red at 27psi. I am going with 1600's FIC's now. WIll be back on the dyno next week. I am running a AEM though. I have Full Blown twin pumps and was on the stock FPR. Now I will have an adjustable FPR.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PPI
My 1200 RC's were maxed out when I was tuning my Red at 27psi. I am going with 1600's FIC's now. WIll be back on the dyno next week. I am running a AEM though. I have Full Blown twin pumps and was on the stock FPR. Now I will have an adjustable FPR.
Please state E85 too, I know you are on it, but others might not. Very clear distinction here.

I just tuned a FPred at 30psi across (holding 30psi till 8000rpm) on RC1200's, but on 110 octane and the IDC's where around 63%. Add approx 30% for E85 and you can see that it would be maxed.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Please state E85 too, I know you are on it, but others might not. Very clear distinction here.

I just tuned a FPred at 30psi across (holding 30psi till 8000rpm) on RC1200's, but on 110 octane and the IDC's where around 63%. Add approx 30% for E85 and you can see that it would be maxed.
According to the pulse width calculation, we were at about 85% on my car on the Red at 30psi. It was holding it to 8000rpms as well.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Please state E85 too, I know you are on it, but others might not. Very clear distinction here.

I just tuned a FPred at 30psi across (holding 30psi till 8000rpm) on RC1200's, but on 110 octane and the IDC's where around 63%. Add approx 30% for E85 and you can see that it would be maxed.
Yes, good point to make VERY clear for everyone. This is on E85! I don't have the flow sheet from RC in front of me but I do remember them flowing approx. 1150 cc's. A decent amount under the 1200 rating.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PPI
Yes, good point to make VERY clear for everyone. This is on E85! I don't have the flow sheet from RC in front of me but I do remember them flowing approx. 1150 cc's. A decent amount under the 1200 rating.
well this suggests that i need more than pte 1000s even with the br double pumper. 1600 then?
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dsmfan95
According to the pulse width calculation, we were at about 85% on my car on the Red at 30psi. It was holding it to 8000rpms as well.
but you have double pumper and PTE1200's right?

I was talking about RC1200's and single pump.

btw I just rechecked the logs, 59% IDC at 30 psi holding with RC1200's and single pump on 110 octane.

So it might *just* have enough room on E85. Double pumper or external would make me sleep easier though.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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1200s and a double pumper. youll be set
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