the best place to buy the qm i've seen is mapperformance.

Also, i'm fixing to do a twin install. Whats this pop off stuff deal? Do i need to add anything?

 

Loud Loud Loud x1000

LOL

 

^^^ grrrr

 

1slowevo, do you feel this clutch can be daily driven? I am not heavily modded, nor do I go to the track often. Do you think that it would be still suitable to use this clutch? The main reason I got it was because of the ability to slip it easily, and for the future in case I add a 35r or something

Steve

 

It's really NOT that bad on the street. Its easy once you get the hang of it, but anyone that tries to drive the car just stalls, even at most shops. Like Patrick said, I've heard more negative on the tilton cerametallic than positive so stick with the QM or the carbon

 

im goin for qm now.

 

the reason im not gonna run or use a tilton carbon is because they dont last long when daily driven. that one i know. and im not spending the money on one to last me 5k miles.

 

i drive my car everyday, im about 500hp now and will be much more very soon, ive had the qm and exedy twin on my dsm and both performed amazing. heres my question, is there an option for people like me that dont want to rebuild there clutch every year? or do i just need to suck it up and go with it haha.

 

i daily drove my tilton certamatalic. twin disk clutch.. took a while to get used to and people that think they can drive any car get tested with mine LOL.. it is a pain to drive daily i will admit that.. i had to avoid stopping on hills anytime i could lol.. but held 570whp easily with hitting on it to driving gas saver style. great clutch IMO but very very aggressive

 

for you currently I don't think its needed, but I ran it on my stock turbo setup for over a year and it was quite fun. I feel if someone is going to track the car once in a while and can stand the noise, then its a great clutch.

+1000 hit the nail on the head. I love seeing other people try to move my car

nothing as far as I know of. Daily driving will kill the clutch alot faster than using it at the track.

 

I have about 3000 miles on it.
I put down 270hp and tq on buschurs dyno on 93 oct,2 yrs ago.It was hot and I had 235/40's on.Later realized my spark plugs where gapped too large.

The clutch just loves to grab unless you rev a bit.Hills do suck but I don't mind anymore.
I went with a twin because I didn't want the heavy pedal of a single and went with the push because of some having issues with other pull types.
I was going to go tilton until I was told about the qm and read up on it and made my choice.
I plan on a fp red once the cash comes in.

 

thanks denile



well. i have to make 2 calls tomorrow. depending how they go it is gonna be a toss up. i have a lot of info on paper here and will decide within the week what clutch i get. and i will of course post that up here.

 

I've owned many 'hairy' cars and have put up with things that would drive most people crazy over the past 27 years. And of all those things, the one that I've found that can just take the fun out of driving any car is a clutch that just plain sucks.

Where my EVO is concerned, despite the fact that it doesn't get driven all that often, it has to be capable of being truly and cleanly daily driven in all terrains, light or heavy traffic, and all weather conditions without aggravation or issue.

Like many here, I was in search of the 'perfect' clutch, and I've been through several. If your street-driven car has to satisfy the same conditions as mine, I can make a few suggestions:

- If you aren't making 400++whp, you don't need a megabuck multi clutch.

- Forget carbon duals, carbon triples, etc. You can do without the cost, AND the rebuild cost as well (which tends to get overlooked). These are more practical for dedicated drag cars.

- Small, low mass, unsprung metallic clutches (e.g. Tilton) sound sexy in theory, but leave a lot to be desired in street driving. Stop and go driving is no longer a casual affair, and if a hill gets tossed into the mix, one can find himself in a bit of a jam. These clutches just aren't the best option for a 3000+lb street car, and they can take a lot of fun out of driving it. I should also mention that the noise they generate sounds like a crappy exhaust rattle, and is the quickest way to make your car sound like a $1200 hoopdie. There is also some recent speculation that the vibration from these clutches is to blame for instances of premature wear to the input shaft, but I cannot verify. Such things don't matter much for a dedicated drag car, but they can just plain suck for the street.

- The Exedy twin has proven to be a great street clutch, and drives like an OE item. I believe evodan has about 35k miles on one without issues. If your preference is a push type, the SPEC unit I am running was recently developed by Drifto with SPEC. It is quiet, can handle more power than I can ever throw at it, is as smooth as butter, is very easy to drive, and doesn't make the car sound like it's about to fall apart.


I wanted to chime in after having a conversation with evodan about it this afternoon. The fundamental point is that one needs to consider such things before jumping into something that sounds 'kewl' in principle, but in reality may make the car a jerky, tempermental, noisy rattletrap. I dealt with a metallic low-mass clutch for awhile, and I'm damn glad to be out of it (anyone looking for a used Tilton CM?). I didn't realize how much I didn't like it until I replaced it with something more street friendly.

 

I have the Quartermaster clutch, and it is daily driveable, BUT I wouldnt go with it unless I was FOR SURE going with a 35R or bigger in the future. It's a very good clutch, but also a very aggressive clutch IMO. Quite a big more aggressive than the Exedy Triple plate Cerametallic clutch that I used to have.

 

Ted thanks for putting that up. Its Always great to talk to you and thank you again. I will be calling him today after work for sure to get more info on what your recommended. Me. I am hopping I can buy a clutch no later then next friday because if I don't ill spend the money on other stuff I probably do not need. Haha. So I need to make up my mind and be convinced into what clutch is best for me setup.