HTA35R and dont even think about something else

 

Was the 385 @ 26 PSI achieved on 100 octane, or 93?

 

I am not trying to be rude, but there was another almost identical thread originated by another Australian Evo owner quite recently, which posed the same questions and which also proposed Garrett 30R turbos as possible upgrades, for street driven pump gas Evos.

Both threads start off by disqualifying the current, state of the art, 16G based turbos developed by Forced Performance(the Red, the Green, the White), to which you could also add the BBK turbos recently introduced by CBRD, as prohibitely expensive for Australian import, and thus not a viable option.

If I were forced to choose between the 3071 and the 3076, I would take the 3076, but only if it were equipped with a twin scroll turbine housing. I would never own a 3071.

Our British cousins loved the FP Green turbo. It is one of the preferred upgrades over there. Now, the British Evo aficionados can´t wait to get their hands on the newly released Red. I think that FP however is filling all domestic U.S orders before starting overseas shipping.

Overall, the experience in the U.S. has been the opposite of yours. Whereas your Dynos are not Red and Green friendly, here we tend corroborate dyno numbers with track results. The Red has achieved terminal speeds of over 145 MPH( and 9.5 second times) in the quarter mile on near full weight Evos.

The 3076 and the 3071 have been used on Evos for many years but we have rarely, if ever seen a 10 second 3076 car. So, if you want to bolt one of these slugs onto your Evos, then go right ahead. It is, after all, your car.

The FP HTA 35R as has been suggested numerous times in both threads, is tons more turbo than the 3076. It spools about as quick but puts out gobs more power and is a much better pumpgas turbo(Buschur tuned one to run 30+ PSI on 93 octane gasoline).

Finally, for me at least, even the long forgotten 3065 seems to be a more palatable choice than the 3076.

 

wow greens and reds doin 145 and 9.5 seconds... got any vids? lol id love to see one of those fly past me.


nvm found one :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfo8sOnP3Yw

 

thanks for all replies so far appreciate all the input .

Ive heard awesome things about the 35R but this turbo has hardly been tested out in Australia and i only know of 1 guy that has one but is on a 2.3L .
How would the turbo respond on the stock 4G63 ? Are there many guys out there that are using this turbo on the stock internals ? And if there are , how much boost are they running and when does the turbo start to kick in ??

Cheers again

 

FP Red

 

no offence mate , but plenty of ppl have said that and i have also stated plenty of times that i will not be spending $4500 on a evo red .

Once again on the 35R , when will it start to boost on the stock 2L and is it safe to run such a big turbo on the stock internals ?

 

I apologize, I did not take the time to read the thread.

Best of luck to ya.

 

no probs man , feel free to voice your opinion on the other turbos that have been mentioned . I dont know bugger all about which one ill go for :P

 

also with this sort of power , will the drivetrain suffer at all ? If i aim to get around the 450whp mark and drive it hard but dont do any launches will the car be fine and not crumble ? As its a daily driver the last thing i want to be doing is replacing driveline parts every month .

 

The drivelines are pretty stout. The stock clutch doesn't like taking beatings though. Since you're out in Australia, give gcg turbos a call. They're out near Sydney I believe. They built me a garrett gt hybrid for my mazda and it works great. Give them a shot. http://www.gcg.com.au/turbo/TurboDefault.aspx

 

Hmnnn I have owned a GT3076R and have seen a few evo's down here with GT3076R...

Truth is that the open scroll GT30R are a fair bit lagier than the stock frame twinscroll turbo's; from my experiance I would say:
GT3071R - full boost = +/- 3600rpm (have seen them make 270KW atw)
GT3076R - full boost = +/- 4000rpm (have seen them make 300KW atw)
GT35R - full boost = +/- 4500rpm (have seen them make 370KW atw)

Transient response - on off boost puttering around is nowhere near TS and has no punch to it in comparison...

If the FP Green is not an option abd you can build a custom Twin Scroll Manifold like I did then maybe:
T3 .78 - GT3071R
or
T3.78 - GT3076R

Is what your looking for, nice power, a bit lagier than a Green or Red but less of a compromise than a GT35R in terms of lag and on-off performance.

In Oz you also have low MON rated fuel like us so running turbo's that shine at 30psi is not really a good option or a wise decision especially on the stock bottom end...


Cheers
Sal
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there are turbos we use that will outspool a 3076R and make 35R ish power...

they are usually a couple hundred bucks more to build.

cb

 

supersal - thankyou for that post , very helpful indeed

Im looking for a turbo that has the capability to make around 300kw atw which sounds like the 3076R model . I dont mind if its a little laggier than the stock turbo , as thats expected when going for a bigger turbo and more power . The last thing i want to do is to start breaking driveline parts every month because its my daily driver and if i need to go for 260 - 270kw atw to ensure this then so be it .

I think the answer may be the smaller turbos in the 3071 and the 3076 in a TS setup what you reckon ??

Cheers

 

the 30R is going to be laggy, REALLY laggy compared to a stock turbo.

If you use a .63 hotside that will help... the .82 will be dead in the water..

honestly, judging by youre requirements.. I would use a stage 3 Ball bearing 50 trim garrett.

They have consistently outperformed the 3076R on our dyno, time and time again.

cb