the reason why I'd go with the 64 is cuz of the displacement and to use the longer rods.....who wouldn't use it for it's advantage

 

The negatives I've had with the 64 block are:

- my AMS header actually touches the heat shield under my bonnet.. the number 1, and 2 primaries... and they are a bit scratched from it. has not been a problem except it scratched my pretty header

- my AMS turbo support bracket needed to be drilled and fab'd a bit to work

- we had to fab my alternator bracket a bit

- had to lengthen oil return line as it was a bit taught

And then as has been mentioned already, if you go beyond standard bore, gasket choices are not great. Stick to standard bore and you can use HKS.

Also you need a modified water pump which I got mine from Magnus.

You need to degree the cams and use adjustable cam gears as the factory timing marks are a no go since you are running a higher deck.

Otherwise it's a good choice but there are little issues. I think I've ended up with a very responsive setup given the power output of my car.

 

^ yes all that or you could stick with a tried and true 2.3L

 

yes but you stated that numerous times on the first page lol?

 

It doesn't sound good at all. Too many problems.

 

Maybe it's because he has a VI

 

I see you only favor the 2.3, but why isn't a 2.4 considered "tried and true" if SBR, RnR, RRE and Magnus have used it and has good feedback?

 

Because the 2.3 is painless and the 2.4 is far from painless especially with a mivec head.

 

my .02 the DSM community help refine this process quite a bit. I have had a 2.4L GSX in the past and I will admit I miss the TQ.

With the right support mods the 2.4l can be a real killer ESP on the circle track or the drag strip.

Like any "motor swap" if thats what you could call it, do your homework most problems / failures come from uneducated guesses.

IMHO the 2.4 takes a better beating then the 2.0 its like the 2.4 was born to rule above 5000 RPM's

oh with mivec, even though its a new element for the 2.4 arena look around there is a better understanding of it on here then you might think.

 

which 4g64 block is the one to use or are all 4g64 good?

cheers
sven

 

I would have to dissagree on the 2.4 born to rule above 5000rpms. For instance on my 42R i gained about 500-700rpms of spool on the 2.4 compared to the 2.0. BUT i lost almost 3000rpms up top which is where the 42R makes its power. From 5000rpms to 10800rpms the 2.0 walks all over the 2.4 IMO.

Now if you are running a small turbo where you are going to be out of its efficiency range any higher then lets say 8500rpms then ya the 2.3-2.4 is very nice to have.

BTW: You need a 4G64 block that is a 7 bolt. I would go with a 2000 Galant block.

Chris

 

Do the galant 2000 blocks have oil squirters? Are they turbocharched in standard form or not?

 

no oil squiters. here is a list of donor 4g64s

2000-2005 eclipse
8g galants
2g stratus

I run a 4g64 and love it. 2.4L non built

 

On my GSX I had a 35R so ill rephrase a bit, the setup I had felt like it was born to live above 5000K vs. the 2.0 with a close to the same setup I had before the 2.4 swap

 

just thought i would update, last dyno, my eclipse spyder, 4g64, 1600cc injectors, made 590hp 578 tq, with the gt35r.