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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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fuel injector size

My future build plans are red, kelford 272, meth injection (only because I don't can't get race fuel where I live), and the mods in my sig. Along with ported 65m tb, ported intake manifold, and ported exhaust manifold.

With all that said, what size injectors should I run. My tuner said I should get 680s or 780s. I wanted to get more input. And I was getting PTE injectors, are they any good?

Would I benefit from a double pumper?

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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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780s
double pumper is not needed unless you are shooting 500whp+

What are you building for? Road Race, Drag Race or just a nice DD...

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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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http://www.rceng.com/technical.aspx#...tor_Worksheet_

Bottom of the page is a calculator
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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The 780`s will be O.K. for the Red plus meth. But, they`d be only marginally sufficient for the Red and 93 octane at the higher boost levels(26 PSI+). I would do the PT&E 880`s for the Red. These will provide sufficient headroom should you ever want to run a high boost non-Meth ECU map(race gas). If you eventually run corn gas, then you`ll want 1000`s, or a 1200`s, as well as a double pumper. The single Walbro is good for a bit more than 525 WHP(non-oxygenated fuels).

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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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by it once buy it right go for 1000
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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yeah I agree........FIC 1050's are super nice and if you ever want to run e85 or further upgrades you have that option and your fuel system is already setup.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gfng
by it once buy it right go for 1000

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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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780s
double pumper is not needed unless you are shooting 500whp+

What are you building for? Road Race, Drag Race or just a nice DD...
I want a bad a$$ street car /w weekend drag races.
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gfng
by it once buy it right go for 1000
With meth?
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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ch53avitech
I want a bad a$$ street car /w weekend drag races.
Then just as sparky said 880 pump/meth(with out winter o2 gas) or 1000 for eth (e85); if you start running out of fuel (maxing your injectors) then go double pumper.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Who has low prices on fuel injectors? I was thinking Vivid.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 10:38 AM
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good info im loking into new injectors too
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The FIC injectors have a very nice spray pattern compared to the others. I'd suggest you look at FIC's website www.fuelinjectorclinic.com for the pictures of the comparison.

I agree with the previous poster who said get (at least) the 1000s and do it once. With the 1000s, you'll be at 70% or so of injector duty cycle, and that gives you plenty of headroom to allow the injectors to do what they are supposed to. Above 80 or 90% IDC, you have less control of the injector's flow characteristics, and that is to be avoided. I've run 1000s with the Red on gas, and hit about 70%. If you're going E85, you'll need at least 30% more fuel, and that calculates out to 1150s or 1200s.

FIC also flow matches their sets of injectors to less than 1% variance, and provides flow sheets with your set, so you know exactly what you're dealing with. That's a nice benefit.
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Originally Posted by cpoku
Then just as sparky said 880 pump/meth(with out winter o2 gas) or 1000 for eth (e85); if you start running out of fuel (maxing your injectors) then go double pumper.
A double pumper increases the max capacity of the same set of injectors?
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CO_VR4
The FIC injectors have a very nice spray pattern compared to the others. I'd suggest you look at FIC's website www.fuelinjectorclinic.com for the pictures of the comparison.

I agree with the previous poster who said get (at least) the 1000s and do it once. With the 1000s, you'll be at 70% or so of injector duty cycle, and that gives you plenty of headroom to allow the injectors to do what they are supposed to. Above 80 or 90% IDC, you have less control of the injector's flow characteristics, and that is to be avoided. I've run 1000s with the Red on gas, and hit about 70%. If you're going E85, you'll need at least 30% more fuel, and that calculates out to 1150s or 1200s.

FIC also flow matches their sets of injectors to less than 1% variance, and provides flow sheets with your set, so you know exactly what you're dealing with. That's a nice benefit.
How does Precision compare to FIC? I thought I remember reading someone having a hard time fitting the FIC injectors on the intake manifold. There was something wrong with the clearance or something like that. I could be wrong though.
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