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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Unhappy need help chosing parts. evo 9 only get one cam gear?

i bought a used evo 9 for 30 grand and some change only for me not to be happy and decide to build it up, the block and head are at the machine shop with a few misc. parts. i do have some issues and questions infact. im not familiar with these evos too much and just need some damn good advice. it would be great!
im going to be in the 600-700 whp range.

aluminum rods? or fordged?

there is a little black sensor underneath the intake manifold with a wire harness connection, and 3 vacumm ports, i dont know what it is, it was all unhooked when i got the car from a shop of hacks, can i just take it off and leave the wire hanging, the car has no egr anymore if that has something to do with it, i just dont kno if it gets hooked up, removed, line capped off but wires plugged in? im cluless

cam gears? it looks like i can only use one hks cam gear because theres a large sensor of some sort on the one stock gear?

to support UP TO 40 psi what injectors do you recomend?
(i was told i can use the stock ecu, (with a wild mellon tune ofcourse) with aeromotive regulator, 255 pump,760 injectors, and fuel rail to support 40 psi) can someone fill me in and give some suggestions on this, i find it kind of hard to belive, i think i would need a stand alone.?

i need an acf. i think.....i would like to retain a stock ecu, but have 2 maps, one street and one track, street i would like 20 psi, with 93 octane and the perfect afr, track i would like 40 psi with c16. is this possibly with a safcII, or would i have to go with the whole ems thing? or with the stock ecu just get a rretune before everytime i go to the track? or just drive easily on the street with a race tune?

last but not least (and guys im sure im annoying by now) i have (2) "C" looking clips that came from my crank somewhere, where the heck do they go? i had a shop disasseble the engine and they were doing a horrible job so i took all my pieces and car back and trying to do this myself. please help me.

if someone very familiar with the mivec evo 9's would like to come to cotesville pa for a day or 2 or 3 and just clue me in and kinda help me out with some things, i will pay transportation, give you your own bedroom, food, everything haha just help

after buying the car, parts, and having a crazy test and tune done i think im looking appx 50 grand wrapped up in this car and dont want a thing to go wrong. is that too much to ask for.

i also have many stock and aftermarket parts for sale or trade. 610-470-4284 Ryan. thanks a million!
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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Yon only need one cam gear on the IX because MIVEC on the IX is adjustable on the intake side. IMHO I say forged rods. I kept the stock ECU and did my own tuning. I had a little over 300 on 91 with what I had done.According to what I understand you can rescale the stock ecu and you can adjust for higher load, making you not need a standalone ems. If you do buy one I was looking at AEM. Mivec tuning you can find a lot on it in the tuning forums. There is a specific thread to MIVEC tuning I can give you more info on mivec if you want. Do you have your own laptop ?

You can do the whole two maps thing yes. You get your mean tune on your C16 and then get a tune on your 93 octane. So when you go to the track flash to your race tune. I would say gt35r turbo my preference would be full race. I would go bigger than 760 injectors with a double pumper setup. I would just overshoot how much you need. Just as a security issue.

As for your clamp issue not so sure I don't want to make a wrong assumption and sound like an ***.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by droppedrx7
last but not least (and guys im sure im annoying by now) i have (2) "C" looking clips that came from my crank somewhere, where the heck do they go? i had a shop disasseble the engine and they were doing a horrible job so i took all my pieces and car back and trying to do this myself. please help me.
Those are most likely (based on your description) the thrust washers that go in along side the center main bearing.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by droppedrx7
im going to be in the 600-700 whp range.

I recommend the HTA86 turbo


aluminum rods? or fordged?
forged unless it's mostly a drag strip only car

cam gears? it looks like i can only use one hks cam gear because theres a large sensor of some sort on the one stock gear?
you need a good cam, not cam gears

to support UP TO 40 psi what injectors do you recomend?
(i was told i can use the stock ecu, (with a wild mellon tune ofcourse) with aeromotive regulator, 255 pump,760 injectors, and fuel rail to support 40 psi) can someone fill me in and give some suggestions on this, i find it kind of hard to belive, i think i would need a stand alone.?
PTE 1200cc + twin walbro, I've tested the stock ecu up to 34psi on 93 octane ~550awhp on a stingy dyno based on the full weight and 135mph traps. I'm going to be doing race gas soon and 40psi to see how the stock ecu behaves very soon..shooting for 650awhp area and 145mph traps

i need an acf. i think.....i would like to retain a stock ecu, but have 2 maps, one street and one track, street i would like 20 psi, with 93 octane and the perfect afr, track i would like 40 psi with c16. is this possibly with a safcII, or would i have to go with the whole ems thing? or with the stock ecu just get a rretune before everytime i go to the track? or just drive easily on the street with a race tune?
two maps can be done...forget about the s-afc that's an ancient and crude way to tune and has no timing adjustment which is critical for a high horsepower evo.

you're going to get a million different opinions on this but those are mine for what it's worth. my responses in bold, good luck
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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I agree with Mellon too. But Mellon isn't it good to get a cam gear for the exhaust side since mivec is only on intake??
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BerserkerX
I agree with Mellon too. But Mellon isn't it good to get a cam gear for the exhaust side since mivec is only on intake??
I wouldn't waste my money on cam gears...a good cam doesn't require them
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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what cams? 264/272s? or do i only need one? and if i only need one exactly which one do i need? thanks.

also ign. coils. how the hell am i going to get this thing to fire? i saw a thread on here 5 minutes ago about a gentleman using coils from a gm application, re doing some wires and worked damn good on 35 psi.is that something i should do or just buy aftermarket coils and wires for my car? i had a plroblam blowing spark out with only 20 psi, if i ran 19 psi it was fine but assoon as i turned it to 20 or more it would fall on its face, then pick right back up and do it again.

is there a picture or something i could look at to see where these "thrust washers belong?
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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Since you have an Evo 9 and you can't get Buschur Cams.. Get either Cosworth m2's (272s), Kelford 272s (very comparable to Cosworth m2's), or gsc s2s.. all of these will yield great gains and no dramatic loss of spool up, if any...
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Boost3dxEvO
Since you have an Evo 9 and you can't get Buschur Cams.. Get either Cosworth m2's (272s), Kelford 272s (very comparable to Cosworth m2's), or gsc s2s.. all of these will yield great gains and no dramatic loss of spool up, if any...
all good advice... look into the buschur coil on plug ignition, works great for me and guys making much more power.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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this is amazing guys...
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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the cosworth m2's. i would use both, or just one? and will they work with both of my stock cam gears?
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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mellon; that wild car of yours that i just watched go 10.41 with stock parts, what kind of driveline you have? im hoping i can run stock diffs and axles, my tranny has a pretty sweet build but not my diffs and axles and that stuff. and would you reccomend that tubular front crossmenber?
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by droppedrx7
the cosworth m2's. i would use both, or just one? and will they work with both of my stock cam gears?

both cams and stock gears would do the trick
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by droppedrx7
mellon; that wild car of yours that i just watched go 10.41 with stock parts, what kind of driveline you have? im hoping i can run stock diffs and axles, my tranny has a pretty sweet build but not my diffs and axles and that stuff. and would you reccomend that tubular front crossmenber?
that was with the stock driveline but those passes did the stock transmission in, it started making some odd noises after that. Now I have the Buschur built tranny but kept the stock axles etc...

no need to go tubular...stock works fine.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Damn you paid more than 30k for your evo9. I paid 29k for mine brand new. GL with your build all the advices are great. We have many knowledgeable people in evom.
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