Air Filter Shootout Test - Results!
Apr 20, 2019, 10:13 PM
#601
It's simple today for light to light guy budget.
Smooth existing intake, do volume math on box make sure it meets airflow for any size changes you did spend money on high air flow dry air filter spend $100-$250 get powered ram basically electric super giving at will 3psi instant constant boost. Between high performance high flow filter and "box blower"and cheap $100 stage 1 chip my Mitsubishi outlander went from 160whp to 250whp still on stock exhaust so...300 dollars slight mods if needed some time.i also gained 2mpg all around.
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GG06MR (Apr 21, 2019)
Apr 21, 2019, 12:37 AM
#603
I remember spammers were banned for this.
@MinusPrevious , time to clean up FROSTYQ's posts.
@MinusPrevious , time to clean up FROSTYQ's posts.
Apr 21, 2019, 05:34 AM
#604
use new style box blower\electric ram some will give 3psi buddy at will drawing 2.2 amps to just over just bout what your starter pulls.imo would be better to run short ram like old cowl induction reverse to negative air pocket right at base of windshield for best clean pull of air. Or if all MFG plastic guides and plates are still there sealed properly and not choked by their inline choke will pull cold air just fine. 89rs Camaro with box and cone inside the outlet of box and smoother pieces at the two worked fine did not ever effect mixture settings as long as pipe at maf nvr chgs it's fine. If do then just do math figure out how large you need for proper size maf and can still use MFG settings no change. I did it 5.0 thick walled RS 89 h.o. Camaro. Cone worked if I rammed it.
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GG06MR (Apr 21, 2019)
Apr 21, 2019, 06:55 AM
#607
Happy Easter Joe. Electric motors don't have the energy to make any significant pressure. In addition, once an engine starts to draw air, these electric blowers start interfering the airflow and become a resistance like air filter. What's worse is that, up top, it can be a worse restriction that an air filter.
Remember, energy can't be created or destroyed. It can only be convert from one energy (kinetic) to another (heat). And un general, energy gets wasted as heat.
2A electric motor won't do anything to pressurize intake air.
Remember, energy can't be created or destroyed. It can only be convert from one energy (kinetic) to another (heat). And un general, energy gets wasted as heat.
2A electric motor won't do anything to pressurize intake air.
Apr 22, 2019, 02:54 AM
#610
This is the system that sparked some conversation about E-Superchargers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBiHg5feKIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBiHg5feKIU
Good luck powering a V8 using 2.2A.
Numbers don't add up. If it did, why don't we see car manufactures using these instead of a turbo or supercharger? It's so much cheaper (if it really works)!
Apr 22, 2019, 07:44 AM
#611
use new style box blower\electric ram some will give 3psi buddy at will drawing 2.2 amps to just over just bout what your starter pulls.imo would be better to run short ram like old cowl induction reverse to negative air pocket right at base of windshield for best clean pull of air. Or if all MFG plastic guides and plates are still there sealed properly and not choked by their inline choke will pull cold air just fine. 89rs Camaro with box and cone inside the outlet of box and smoother pieces at the two worked fine did not ever effect mixture settings as long as pipe at maf nvr chgs it's fine. If do then just do math figure out how large you need for proper size maf and can still use MFG settings no change. I did it 5.0 thick walled RS 89 h.o. Camaro. Cone worked if I rammed it.
Apr 22, 2019, 08:42 AM
#612
EvoM Community Team Leader
this sounds way over complicated. Just think about it a little higher level. A supercharger requires X amount of power from the engine to operate and produce more airflow than the engine. This is pretty easy to figure out. This number isn't low, its in the tens of HP at the very least. I know its actually going to be a lot more then 10 HP but lets just play with that. 10 HP is ~7.5KW of electricity (quick google converter). Some quick Ohms law gets you 7500/14=517 AMPS .
Apr 22, 2019, 09:04 AM
#613
this sounds way over complicated. Just think about it a little higher level. A supercharger requires X amount of power from the engine to operate and produce more airflow than the engine. This is pretty easy to figure out. This number isn't low, its in the tens of HP at the very least. I know its actually going to be a lot more then 10 HP but lets just play with that. 10 HP is ~7.5KW of electricity (quick google converter). Some quick Ohms law gets you 7500/14=517 AMPS .
Apr 22, 2019, 09:24 AM
#614
EvoM Community Team Leader
If i understood the Vid correctly, the problem was the 2 xtra batteries that could not support the load properly. There was a link on his Vid for E-Turbos in which they noted a Lithium Ion battery is needed & would need a separate charge aside from the alternator system
Apr 22, 2019, 09:31 AM
#615
Disclaimer, I didn't watch the vid, but electric superchargers have been on my radar for a while. It's my understanding as well that it would require EV level tech applied to the supercharger. So hundreds of volts and very complicated controller electronics. It could be done, but it would be very complicated. The weight could be an issue too.
Amazing how efficient an exhaust driven charger is
