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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Still haven't seen any proven gains with replacing the intake pipe.... MAF adapter, good cone filter and tune shows gains but stock tube vs aftermarket is probably negligible. Not worth the cost in my opinion.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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ive also heard of issues with the buschur & ets intakes. the maf has to be scaled to work correctly and ive heard a lot of shops have trouble getting it done correctly.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MR Turco
obviously the gains are to be had WITH a retune. But i know he is going to a larger turbo and FP has stated previously the stock airbox is not good for turbos over 42lb/min IIRC.
I'm not talking about the box, just the piping.
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SPANKED
Still haven't seen any proven gains with replacing the intake pipe.... MAF adapter, good cone filter and tune shows gains but stock tube vs aftermarket is probably negligible. Not worth the cost in my opinion.
Found a thread with some results on that:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...rc-airbox.html

+9whp/-4wtq from switching the stock rubber pipe to an aluminum pipe
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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There is 2 reason to change to had hard pipe.

1) smooth out the intake, the stock pipe is corregated...
2) stronger, the stock pipe *might* collapse in on itself at high boost pressures...
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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has any one had the stock pipe collapse on them and if so what psi
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by silver_03_evo
has any one had the stock pipe collapse on them and if so what psi
I'd worry more about the intake being corregated than collapsing but both are valid concerns.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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The fact that the OEM pipe is corrugated makes it even harder for it to collapse than a straight pipe. Maybe thats part of the reason why it is corrugated stock. I like rubber better than metal since it is a better heat isolator.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 06:56 AM
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The fact that the OEM pipe is corrugated makes it even harder for it to collapse than a straight pipe. Maybe thats part of the reason why it is corrugated stock. I like rubber better than metal since it is a better heat isolator.
Intake air is in the short intake pipe for a fraction of a second before it hits the turbo. Not enough time for the transmission of heat to the air.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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The stock pipe might be convaluted to help smooth recirculation and to protect turbo by dampening. Who knows, the bottom line is that it's easy to tune aftermarket intakes at WOT for HP, drivability onthe otherhand might be and endless cause.
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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Ya I've never heard of a stock intake colapsing under high boost pressures?
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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I can confirm ETS intake drivability issues. My MAF was rescaled but simply would not idle. It caused the car to loose too much vacuum. I replaced the ETS pipe with the stock rubber pipe, kept the MAF and K&n cone. Vacuum increased from 10 in/hg to 15 in/hg at idle. Restriction...maybe, but drivibility is so much better I can't even explain. And the idle is almost stock like plus cossies.
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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No issues with my ETS intake. Minor MAF scaling and it idles perfect.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jimbobdaga
ive also heard of issues with the buschur & ets intakes. the maf has to be scaled to work correctly and ive heard a lot of shops have trouble getting it done correctly.
Anyone have issues with the samco hose? I have the amsoil filter with the vibrant adapter and it a little too long?
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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im not carzy about filter that have oil in it like peein , i like dry filters my maf is happier

i like the br pipe because it has only a mild bend and the car is smoother , ive known people
switching from one pipe to the other because of drivability issues , when there real problem is there not recirculating on the stock ecu
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