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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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As mentioned previously, I think it's a fatigue issue due to the design of the cam at that location. If so, RPM should have little to do with it. If it is fatigue, it is based on the number of cycles and amount of repetitive force, which basically equates to mileage and perhaps stiffness of the valvetrain being used. Obviously, there will be a number of factors, and every set wouldn't break at the same time as compared to another car, but if it is a design flaw and fatigue failures, eventually they will break.

A good test would be to get a set of unbroken but used cams magnafluxed or x-rayed and tested for cracks in the suspect area. I'm sure a couple of people have used these cams and changed them out because of this issue or just to upgrade to a new cam. If cracks were found on the unbroken cam(s), then fatigue and eventual failure would occur if the cam would have continued being used.

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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
I am not sure your statement about the FP core is correct.
I am .
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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^ I can second that
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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^^ umm why, i've been hearing it is the same core!
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bbyevo8u
^^ umm why, i've been hearing it is the same core!
It is the same core and FP to date hasn't had one snap.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:13 PM
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Okay guys my cams got here today! First thing I noticed differently, was that the packaging is completely different. There is no casting, or Kelford branding found on the new cam (besides saying 9-177c on the top like the older ones). They came with a cam card that also states in caps new design 272 for Evo IX. The packaging was excellent, they now come in two separate boxes, with the cams wrapped in bubble wrap, then put into one bigger box. I also noticed the grooves now have a slight radius (can't see with my phone pics, I'll get some better pics with my camera set to micro), unlike the older ones. Overall I'm really happy Kelford has stepped up to the plate, and fixed every aspect from making them thicker, to completely changing packaging etc. Their customer service is absolutely top notch, and they helped throughout the whole way, answering every single one of my e-mails. I also picked up a set of their brand new beehive valve springs while swapping my cam set for the new ones, since Kevin had the courtesy of giving me a heads up that they were being released soon. I still don't know if they're officially yet, since I can't find them anywhere on the site (give them a call directly if you want a set). Well enough talking, onto the pics.







Where it states NEW DESIGN

Sweet packaging



Beehives
This is odd, my cam card says the same"New Design" on it and it was sold to me on 8 May 08. I allways thought new design meant that it had a new cam profile to some earlier version.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SRT-TO-EVO
It is the same core and FP to date hasn't had one snap.
yeah but how many have FP sold to the number of Kelfords sold? and truely Kelford's snapping have been a handfull...so not to many. So really doesnt mean much if you think about it. There really isnt enough data anywhere!!! just bloody assumptions and opinions.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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s2's ftw
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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We have seen three sets break on the Evo IX.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
We have seen three sets break on the Evo IX.
S2s? Don't GSC, Kelford, and Cos use the same cores.
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
S2s? Don't GSC, Kelford, and Cos use the same cores.
I believe he meant the Old Kelfords. Mine is one of them






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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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did kelford reimburse u?
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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good thing i dont have mivec.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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Anyone here have the new GSC S2's installed and running in their cars? I'm curious how many miles they've got on their set with what springs installed.
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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^^^i have the new gsc s2's with gsc beehive springs and the rev limit set to 8000, i have gotten there a couple times. im making 400 whp and like 340 wtq, tuned by chad at cbrd w a bbk full. i have put like 6000 miles on them, its my daily driver.

jeff
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