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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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ATTENTION all ETS intake and upper IC pipe owners

Hello all,

I thought I would see how the rest of you have dealt with the issue that I am presented with.

I have the short route ETS upper IC pipe and the ETS intake.

As you can see in the two pics below the intake doesn't hold itself up (because of the weight) inorder to clear the upper IC pipe. So as a result it has to rest on the upper pipe.(that is why the rag is there)





In my eyes that's just not acceptable as over time that would scuff/scratch the hell out of the upper pipe and the MAF. So I've either installed this incorrectly (which I seriously doubt but there is always that possibility) or this is just the way this unit was designed and therefore should have come with something to address this.

I'm attempting to see if others have this problem as well and what their solutions to this issue was.

I was thinking of having to get a long enough piece of inch wide by an 8th of an inch thick metal and somehow bend it and then attach it to the bottom of the MAF and the other end to the frame of the car. Downside to this is it may not look all that clean and be a downer that I had to R&D some of this product.

I pray that I have either missed/overlooked something here and just way off base or that someone has an answer for this one.
I thought from looking at ETS's website I might see something in their pics - but it's hard to tell from their angles in the pics if this is rubbing or not.
The only thing I did notice from their pic vs mine is that I don't currently have the BPV installed. However, I don't believe that is going to be the solution as from the look and prefitment of the angles involved, this would create enough lift to hold up the weight of the intake.
I could be wrong on this though-

Thanks for any help/hints -

Joey

PS - SIDE NOTE: the intake pipe just barely clears the lower coolant hose - I had to shove the intake pipe as far as it could go into the coupler (toward the turbo) to get it to barely miss the coolant hose. Although if not for the upper IC pipe it would just lay right on the hose instead of the upper IC pipe..
I think that maybe if I would cut about half an inch or so off the coupler (turbo side) this might resolve the pipe having to be shoved as far as it will go allowing the clamp to get a better grip on the pipe and possibly a better overall seal.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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I have the same setup as you and I macgyvered it so that I fit a rubber shield around there. I can take some pics if you want. Basically I went to the hardware store and bought one of those rubbery plastic couplers for a toilet plumbing setup. It cut it short so that it shields the upper pipe, the intake just rubs on that now. It actually looks pretty professional I think. I spent about 4$ on that part, and I got it at home depot. You can do the same thing for the coolant hose.

Yeah, I can take pictures tomorrow, its late and I want to go to bed. Let me know if you want me too.

Oh yeah, what is that bag on top of your filter?

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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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I have the same setup as you and I macgyvered it so that I fit a rubber shield around there. I can take some pics if you want. Basically I went to the hardware store and bought one of those rubbery plastic couplers for a toilet plumbing setup. It cut it short so that it shields the upper pipe, the intake just rubs on that now. It actually looks pretty professional I think. I spent about 4$ on that part, and I got it at home depot. You can do the same thing for the coolant hose.

Yeah, I can take pictures tomorrow, its late and I want to go to bed. Let me know if you want me too.

Oh yeah, what is that bag on top of your filter?
If you don't mind, I would love to see a pic!! This is kind of disappointing as having to come up with some R&D - as that shouldn't be necessary.

Any others out there?



The pre-filter is from Outerwears - http://www.outerwears.com/

Since the cotton type filters have soooooo many holes in it (look through the inside you'll see a ****e load of daylight. Also over time the cotton will start to shrink like your shirt in the wash creating more holes - maybe that's why they flow so good LOL)
This helps some with filtering and keeps you from having to brush out bug and large dirt particles - which we all know takes forever to pick out and you never get all of it. Overall keeping the filter easier to maintain plus it is water replant.
I hope to find at some point a better filter that doesn't have as many holes like the cotton ones.

For me flow isn't as major of a concern as getting a decent filter that actually filters. But I haven't seen anything out there yet (other than paper) that has been independently tested showing good filtering qualities. If so I'm all ears

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread!

Joey
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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i run the same aet up as well but i simply took a piece of black radiator hose and cut one side of it so i could open it up and put it around the charge pipe. because its rubber it sticks to the intercooler pipe by itself and you can hardly even tell its there if you can at all.
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Have the same setup and used some electrical tape to stop it. Kind of crappy, I hope to just make myself a new intake pipe in the future.
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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A bigger point here is we all bought ETS equipment and shouldn't have to do anything but put it together and nothing else. All the pieces fit and work as one. The only time I see it necessary to modify or do R&D yourself is when you buy a bunch of different parts and they all don't work together.

You guys agree? Maybe I'm just on a soap box and need to shut up and go do some laundry ;-)

Thanks for the replies - please keep them coming.....
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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honestly the choices you make determine the out come of your mods. you could have bought the stock route piping and not had to worry about this small issue or replace your battery with a mini one. there are so many different available mods out there from different companies that not everything is always goinf to work perfectly.

plus its your decsion on what to buy, you went for the short route pipe, this is just the outcome of changing from the stock configuration. imagine if you still had the stock air box in there you would be really lost.
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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my MBC install:


my minibattery install, and wiring:
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by atkins
honestly the choices you make determine the out come of your mods. you could have bought the stock route piping and not had to worry about this small issue or replace your battery with a mini one. there are so many different available mods out there from different companies that not everything is always goinf to work perfectly.
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plus its your decsion on what to buy, you went for the short route pipe, this is just the outcome of changing from the stock configuration. imagine if you still had the stock air box in there you would be really lost.


Wow - looks like you're out of your element a little noob. You are way off track. Did you read my posts or just browse over and draw conclusions from not reading cause you're bored? Plus it looks like I wasn't the only one to have this issue.

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you could have bought the stock route piping and not had to worry about this small issue or replace your battery with a mini one.


Here you need to do some research and from your response you haven't.

Now when you get the short route piping from ETS you have to get a mini battery - (what the hell is your point here?) and you can't use the stock airbox.
Let me bless you with some more knowledge - if you get their stock route piping you don't have to get a mini battery kit - however you still CAN'T use the stock airbox. Looks like your point is moot.
As a side note - No where on ETS's site or anyone posting (that I found through the forum search engine - which is a PITA) could you have found that info as I had to find it out through one of the vendors.

So recognize you don't know what the F you're talking about unless you know FACT and not base this solely off your opinion.

Originally Posted by atkins
there are so many different available mods out there from different companies that not everything is always goinf to work perfectly.


Well that's what I stated if you purchase a bunch of different manufactures parts - did you miss that one too?
However this should not be the case if you buy all the same manufactures product. Seems pretty ridiculous if the same parts from the same manufacture and they don't work together yeah?

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plus its your decsion on what to buy, you went for the short route pipe, this is just the outcome of changing from the stock configuration. imagine if you still had the stock air box in there you would be really lost.


Now you have a point here which I'll give you. IF I never modded my car one bit and left it totally stock would I be having this issue. And you are right in the fact that, no I would not.
However, if a manufacturer has a product out there they are going to sell and there needs to be modification or adjustments that need to be made when you buy this product (like ETS does when you purchase the 3.5" FMIC in trimming some area's) then the customer is informed and all are happy yes? Plus they get props for doing such a thing. Here I am providing that if someone else decides to go with this set up and they research they will learn something from mine and others experiences. I'm trying to contribute a little to the forum and possibly get the manufacturer to help here or change the product a bit - what are you doing with your comments of "it's my fault"?

Maybe you are thinking/saying I just bought an inferior product??

Eventually (even though you may never mod your car) you are going to put some after market part on your vehicle and run into something that doesn't fit like the original but says it's an OEM replacement - remember your post and eat your own words.

Let's just go back to reading the entire post and have all your facts straight before you mouth off with something you have little or no idea about.

In the end you are entiitled to your opinion as I am mine.
I believe R&D shouldn't be done by the customer or the manufacturer needs to inform the customer that when you buy all their products in the hope that all would work together, it just may not - and that was my point from the beginning.

Back on topic? Oh the times we have on EvoM

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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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my MBC install:


my minibattery install, and wiring:
Awesome Jp7 - thanks for the pics as you gave me more than I hoped for
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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i have the same issue...i put something in between also
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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yep i got the same issue..
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Well it's really good to see I'm not the only one. Maybe ETS can change this or develop something to make this better?

ETS what do you think?
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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Have the same issue, and like others , I put exhaust heat wrap with clamps to prevent rubbing, and was like that for a while.

Since I wasn't happy with it , I went out and bought myself Buschur air intake ... Now my air intake doesn't put as much pressure on upper IC pipe.

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Old Apr 5, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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were is ETS with some response
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