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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
This is what to expect from a QM (or Tilton) 7.25" dual disc metallic unit as compared to the clutch you have presently:

Reduced Off-Idle Torque - the light mass and small diameter make getting away from a stop more challenging and demanding of your attention. If you come to a stop sign with the car pointed uphill, you will find it very easy to stall.

Grabby - the clutch does not allow any engagement slippage, and becomes very grabby when hot. It feels like it is either in or out, and nothing in between.

Noisy - When the car sits at idle, you will hear the discs rattling quite clearly from both inside and outside the car. When decelerating in gear, you will hear a loud buzzing that sounds like an exhaust pipe rattling outside the car.

Life - this depends upon driving habits and forcing the clutch to slip in everyday driving will contribute the greatest wear in the shortest time. A good friend of mine had the QM and I had the Tilton. They were virtually the same clutch in all aspects (we've driven and are familiar with each others cars). We both got out of these clutches (<5k miles) before we could determine overall clutch life.

In short, I found the clutch to detract from the driving experience, and IMO, the noise was bad enough to devalue the car. In return, I didn't observe any real street advantage. If you're not bothered by a noisy, rattling clutch that makes the car somewhat more difficult to drive cleanly, then YMMV.
Your review sounds just exactly like my review of Exedy twin-disc HD clutch. I've babied it for the past 700 miles since installation. On Sunday, I unfortunately had to travel through 20 blocks of stop and go traffic through UC Berkely and my clutch took a beating. Once I got onto the freeway, it didn't feel so sharp

But overall, I love this clutch but everyday street manners can be an issue to people who daily drive it. Either Exedy twin HD or QM of course...
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
This is what to expect from a QM (or Tilton) 7.25" dual disc metallic unit as compared to the clutch you have presently:

Reduced Off-Idle Torque - the light mass and small diameter make getting away from a stop more challenging and demanding of your attention. If you come to a stop sign with the car pointed uphill, you will find it very easy to stall.

Grabby - the clutch does not allow any engagement slippage, and becomes very grabby when hot. It feels like it is either in or out, and nothing in between.

Noisy - When the car sits at idle, you will hear the discs rattling quite clearly from both inside and outside the car. When decelerating in gear, you will hear a loud buzzing that sounds like an exhaust pipe rattling outside the car.

Life - this depends upon driving habits and forcing the clutch to slip in everyday driving will contribute the greatest wear in the shortest time. A good friend of mine had the QM and I had the Tilton. They were virtually the same clutch in all aspects (we've driven and are familiar with each others cars). We both got out of these clutches (<5k miles) before we could determine overall clutch life.

In short, I found the clutch to detract from the driving experience, and IMO, the noise was bad enough to devalue the car. In return, I didn't observe any real street advantage. If you're not bothered by a noisy, rattling clutch that makes the car somewhat more difficult to drive cleanly, then YMMV.
Just like what Ted said wait until you've been on the road in stop-n-go traffic once it builds heat from trying to slip it grabs like a ****

Here's 1 of my vids from a while back about the sound :
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/E...ter_197081.htm
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Dan was being a little too nice and gave it to me with the purchase. Speaking of purchase, the price he sold it for was unbelievable. I remember when he had it up on craigs, i asked him if it was sold yet, he said it is about to be sold the next day; he already had some people with cash in hand ready to purchase it. Then a couple of week later, i sent him an email saying if he sold it, he told me he still have it, so i went down to his house, checked it out. A week later, its sitting in my garage, cant be any more happy.
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Very nice! Dan is a nice guy...I would like to see him go farther with his drag car but he has priorities that are more pressing. Yeah the is TOLERABLE once you figure out the best way to drive it.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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So my question is does the quartermaster twin come with the push conversion for the 6-speed? Why don't any other twins come with the push-style for the 6-speed?
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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The tob will not work in the 6 speed.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by awdboosted
The tob will not work in the 6 speed.
When will one be released, or is that out of the question.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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They do have the 6 speed conversion I run the Quarter Master Twin on my 6 speed call MaPerformance up and talk to Adam he helped me out to get the right parts to get my QM working properly the main difference between the 6 and 5 speed Hydraulic TOB is that it's different in size and the 6 speed one has a 3 bolt pattern and the 5 speed has a 4 bolt pattern adaptor. BTW it's feels great in my 6 speed the best clutch hands down for racing.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TO BE CONTINUED
They do have the 6 speed conversion I run the Quarter Master Twin on my 6 speed call MaPerformance up and talk to Adam he helped me out to get the right parts to get my QM working properly the main difference between the 6 and 5 speed Hydraulic TOB is that it's different in size and the 6 speed one has a 3 bolt pattern and the 5 speed has a 4 bolt pattern adaptor. BTW it's feels great in my 6 speed the best clutch hands down for racing.
Yeah that's why I asked, because on MAP's site there's an option for the 6-speed that costs an extra $96.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 04:10 AM
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Thanks for all the shared experiences. I started this because everyone says to use the search and I came out even more confused when you get opinions from the peoples who's brothers, cousin's, half sister's, boyfriend has it. Thanks again to all !
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