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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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If someone is not postive on what fluid is in their trans, its hard to believe they have covered all the possible causes of the noise....
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Great, now there is a thread with the name "new shep tranny sux!?!?!" and it might not even be the tranny. Newbs will read that and not the whole thread where the issue was found. Its most likely the clutch or one of the shields mentioned earlier. My god sometimes people dont think ahead now Shep will have to spend hours answering PM's, email and phone calls about this instead of working his magic on trannys in his shop.

OP, yes it is okay to ask the community what the problem might be but next time dont put "new shep tranny sux!?!?!" unless you have proof and tried your best to remedy with the vendor.

Rant over. JL
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by idriveanevo
No no no, I'm not bAshing shep at all. I've called them and they couldn't tell me. So now I'm Âsking if anybody has had a similar problem. The clutch was tested and checked before install and I used redline mt 90 I think, or whatever it was that shep sent me.... Its definitely coming from the tranny tho
Well with a title that states " Shep Trans SUX ".. your not approaching solving the issue properly.. How about " My Car is making a loud noise because whoever installed my tranny messed up the install " would be a better a title..


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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by PERRIN_JOHN
Great, now there is a thread with the name "new shep tranny sux!?!?!" and it might not even be the tranny. Newbs will read that and not the whole thread where the issue was found. Its most likely the clutch or one of the shields mentioned earlier. My god sometimes people dont think ahead now Shep will have to spend hours answering PM's, email and phone calls about this instead of working his magic on trannys in his shop.

OP, yes it is okay to ask the community what the problem might be but next time dont put "new shep tranny sux!?!?!" unless you have proof and tried your best to remedy with the vendor.

Rant over. JL
Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Well with a title that states " Shep Trans SUX ".. your not approaching solving the issue properly.. How about " My Car is making a loud noise because whoever installed my tranny messed up the install " would be a better a title..


Mike
^^^^this

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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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i'll join in, as the 4th person asking, what kind of clutch are you running? twin plate clutch? unsprung disk? carbon clutch?

i've had broken gears in customers trannys before, and the noise it makes is a clunking sound every time the gear spins (and only happened when the gear was spinning, i.e. driving forward). if your hearing a rattle at idle, and not moving, it cannot be the output side of the tranny because that side is not moving. the only moving part in the tranny is the input side when idling, and thats only assuming the car is in neutral with the clutch pedal out. if you press the clutch in, nothing in the tranny will be moving (so if your hearing a rattle at idle with the car in gear and clutch pedal depressed, its NOT the tranny.

here are some other suggestions:

1. the metal plate between the flywheel and engine block could be missing the bolts that hold it to the block. could cause a vibration sound of metal on metal.

2. downpipe hitting subframe supports (very common, especially at idle)

3. head shields around driveshaft and exhaust

4. front or rear or side motor mount not tight. this would make a clunking sound in hard accel or decel.

5. and of course, the clutch can be chattering. ESPECIALLY if you have a twin.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by PERRIN_JOHN
Great, now there is a thread with the name "new shep tranny sux!?!?!" and it might not even be the tranny. Newbs will read that and not the whole thread where the issue was found. Its most likely the clutch or one of the shields mentioned earlier. My god sometimes people dont think ahead now Shep will have to spend hours answering PM's, email and phone calls about this instead of working his magic on trannys in his shop.

OP, yes it is okay to ask the community what the problem might be but next time dont put "new shep tranny sux!?!?!" unless you have proof and tried your best to remedy with the vendor.

Rant over. JL

I'm a newb....I read it and was like "WOW"! this is like the first time i have seen a thread that put down Shep. It didn't stop me from sending Shep my tranny & transfer case .
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboJuice
If someone is not postive on what fluid is in their trans, its hard to believe they have covered all the possible causes of the noise....
HA! i know what fluid i used, but i was in class earlier. i used the fluid they sent with the tranny! and i have done this install many times before with no problems. kthnksbi.


now, once again, i am not bashing shep at all! if you read the title, it was a question, NOT a statement. now, i have checked over EVERYTHING and like i said, i have done this many times before.

sooooooo, it is NOT a sheild, or anything like that. i used an automotive stethoscope on the tranny and that is where the sound is comming from.....
its a exedy clutch single disc
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Well with a title that states " Shep Trans SUX ".. your not approaching solving the issue properly.. How about " My Car is making a loud noise because whoever installed my tranny messed up the install " would be a better a title..


Mike
i installed the tranny! and i have done it many times before with no problems at all, its very easy. so thanks for your input
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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Title changed..
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Title changed..
geez thankyou!!!


now, maybe we can try this again??
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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mann, i was about to sayy! .. my trans is at shep right now.. yes the wait is 4 weeks whitch suckss but i know it will be worth it when it gets back
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by KevinD
i'll join in, as the 4th person asking, what kind of clutch are you running? twin plate clutch? unsprung disk? carbon clutch?

i've had broken gears in customers trannys before, and the noise it makes is a clunking sound every time the gear spins (and only happened when the gear was spinning, i.e. driving forward). if your hearing a rattle at idle, and not moving, it cannot be the output side of the tranny because that side is not moving. the only moving part in the tranny is the input side when idling, and thats only assuming the car is in neutral with the clutch pedal out. if you press the clutch in, nothing in the tranny will be moving (so if your hearing a rattle at idle with the car in gear and clutch pedal depressed, its NOT the tranny.

here are some other suggestions:

1. the metal plate between the flywheel and engine block could be missing the bolts that hold it to the block. could cause a vibration sound of metal on metal.

2. downpipe hitting subframe supports (very common, especially at idle)

3. head shields around driveshaft and exhaust

4. front or rear or side motor mount not tight. this would make a clunking sound in hard accel or decel.

5. and of course, the clutch can be chattering. ESPECIALLY if you have a twin.
it does NOT rattle or make noise with the pedal down.
it is an exedy hd pressure plate with a ceramic/ kevlar SPRUNG disk. and it was tested and checked before hand,
sorry for the delay on clutch details, i was in class.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by srtboostin22
mann, i was about to sayy! .. my trans is at shep right now.. yes the wait is 4 weeks whitch suckss but i know it will be worth it when it gets back
no worries! im sure you will be extremely happy with your results!
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by idriveanevo
geez thankyou!!!


now, maybe we can try this again??
A lot of technical experts have already chimed in... just saying "it can't be that, I've done this many times before" isn't going to get you anywhere closer to solving this problem.

Possible problem areas include:

1) clutch
2) pressure plate
3) some shield that was mentioned above
4) throw out bearing

Only way to eliminate them for sure, is to change them out.

Have you even contacted Shep for any possible advice?
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
A lot of technical experts have already chimed in... just saying "it can't be that, I've done this many times before" isn't going to get you anywhere closer to solving this problem.

Possible problem areas include:

1) clutch
2) pressure plate
3) some shield that was mentioned above
4) throw out bearing

Only way to eliminate them for sure, is to change them out.

Have you even contacted Shep for any possible advice?

ofcourse! they are the first people i contacted.... i asked about it and they didnt seem to know at all..... so i came here, and the reason i say ive dont it many times before is because i have experience doing it and im no noob to this.
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