HTA Green vs. BBK
I'm getting tired of everyone complaining about fp's wait time..is everybody forgetting how many companies out there are direct fp dealers and stock the fp red on therre shelves!!!!
Let's face it FP is the king of kings in the turbo game. There innovation into taking tje turbo game to a higher standard over the past 4 5 years is crazy. Don't you think FP is so busy building these high demand turbos that maybe there wait if you buy directly from them well be a lil longer??? DUH only makes sense doesn't it. Let's face it Blouch turbo who builds the bbk does not have such a high demand for there turbos like FP does.
If you want the best then go with the best.
Let's face it FP is the king of kings in the turbo game. There innovation into taking tje turbo game to a higher standard over the past 4 5 years is crazy. Don't you think FP is so busy building these high demand turbos that maybe there wait if you buy directly from them well be a lil longer??? DUH only makes sense doesn't it. Let's face it Blouch turbo who builds the bbk does not have such a high demand for there turbos like FP does.
If you want the best then go with the best.
I'm not putting the bbk down at all because it has done well for its target audience. FP put the orginal green out what like almost 5-6 years ago? It did well. Very well. Then CBRD took a green and improved it and used there vision to improve it in there eyes. Now FP is taking the bbk which was orgianlly designed from there original product and making more improvements.
With time is going to be more innovation and great products. People should decide on not how long the wait is but what they want and let the product perform.
With time is going to be more innovation and great products. People should decide on not how long the wait is but what they want and let the product perform.
IM OFF TOPIC , BUT IM IN THE REAL WORLD
1. Anibal BBQ / 5/27/09 / Anibal BBQ / Evo 9 / FP RED, AEM, SparkTech Pro CDI system / 9.527ET
2. Most-Wanted / 02/06/09 / AWDMOTORSPORTS / Evo 9 / FP RED, Buschur Built 2.0L, E85, Crispeed Tuned / 9.535ET
3. Ryu / 4/9/09 / TTP Engineering / Evo 9 / FP RED, 93oct+meth / 6.679 / 10.301ET
4. David Buschur (driven by Trent Stanley) / 07/07/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 8 / FP RED, BR2.3, E85, StockECU / 6.826 / 10.353ET
5. StreetThisEVO / 7/24/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 9 / FP RED, BR2.0, E85, Stock ECU / 6.7559 / 10.5080ET
6. OKIX / 3/19/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 9 / FP GREEN , BR 2.0/ 6.79 / 10.56ET
7. Diiirk / 1/10/09 / AWD Motorsports / Evo 9 / FP GREEN, E85, Jestr Tuned, Stock Motor / 10.72ET
8. CWiLL / 4/15/09 / CWiLL / Evo 8 / FP RED, E85, stockecu / 7.1 / 10.82ET
9. DanniEVOIX / 13-06-2009 / My Self / Evo 9 / FP RED, Stock motor, 93oct / 11.027ET
10. Silk / 7/11/09 / DB & MAP / Evo 8 / FP RED, GSC S1s, Stock block, Full weight, Street tires, E85 / 11.107ET
11. marrrk / 5/31/09/ Strictly Modified / Evo 9 / FP GREEN, e85 / 7.19 / 11.197ET
12. Liqquid / 5/24/09 / Switzer Performance / Evo 8 / FP GREEN, Pro-EFI ecu, E85 / 11.29ET
13. Fookster / 7/11/09 / MAPerformance / Evo 8 / MAP SST, AEM, BC 280s, Built 2.0, E85 / 11.348ET
14. nochance / 5/24/09/ Myself & My Wife / Evo 8 MR / FP RED, Built 2.0L, 93oct, Buschur Tune / 11.409ET
15. Evo2wish4 / 5/15/09 / TTP Eng. / Evo 9 / FP RED, 93oct+meth, Full Weight / 7.46 / 11.413ET
16. WannaRace / 06/26/2009 / Myself / Evo 8 / FP RED, E85 / 11.455ET
17. markymark1082 / 6/4/09 / TTP Engineering / Evo 8 / FP RED, 93oct / 7.452 / 11.610ET
18. Macaroni / 07/02/09 / Myself / Evo 8 / FP RED, pump gas / 11.61ET
19. R/TErnie / 6/12/09 / R/TErnie Race Engineering / Evo 9 / FP RED, EcuFlash, pump/race gas mix / 7.752 / 11.970ET
20. silver9mr / 6/12/09 / Myself / Evo 9 MR / FP RED, 93 pump / 11.98ET
AS i said before bbk or fp green , there both good turbos , i heard , and listened about bbk , now its my turn to do green talking ..
no intention to offend bbk , results r results like it or not , map made it to the list , i would love to get bbk in there i know there capable , but till i see some bbk in there , even the old green is a good choice
1. Anibal BBQ / 5/27/09 / Anibal BBQ / Evo 9 / FP RED, AEM, SparkTech Pro CDI system / 9.527ET
2. Most-Wanted / 02/06/09 / AWDMOTORSPORTS / Evo 9 / FP RED, Buschur Built 2.0L, E85, Crispeed Tuned / 9.535ET
3. Ryu / 4/9/09 / TTP Engineering / Evo 9 / FP RED, 93oct+meth / 6.679 / 10.301ET
4. David Buschur (driven by Trent Stanley) / 07/07/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 8 / FP RED, BR2.3, E85, StockECU / 6.826 / 10.353ET
5. StreetThisEVO / 7/24/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 9 / FP RED, BR2.0, E85, Stock ECU / 6.7559 / 10.5080ET
6. OKIX / 3/19/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 9 / FP GREEN , BR 2.0/ 6.79 / 10.56ET
7. Diiirk / 1/10/09 / AWD Motorsports / Evo 9 / FP GREEN, E85, Jestr Tuned, Stock Motor / 10.72ET
8. CWiLL / 4/15/09 / CWiLL / Evo 8 / FP RED, E85, stockecu / 7.1 / 10.82ET
9. DanniEVOIX / 13-06-2009 / My Self / Evo 9 / FP RED, Stock motor, 93oct / 11.027ET
10. Silk / 7/11/09 / DB & MAP / Evo 8 / FP RED, GSC S1s, Stock block, Full weight, Street tires, E85 / 11.107ET
11. marrrk / 5/31/09/ Strictly Modified / Evo 9 / FP GREEN, e85 / 7.19 / 11.197ET
12. Liqquid / 5/24/09 / Switzer Performance / Evo 8 / FP GREEN, Pro-EFI ecu, E85 / 11.29ET
13. Fookster / 7/11/09 / MAPerformance / Evo 8 / MAP SST, AEM, BC 280s, Built 2.0, E85 / 11.348ET
14. nochance / 5/24/09/ Myself & My Wife / Evo 8 MR / FP RED, Built 2.0L, 93oct, Buschur Tune / 11.409ET
15. Evo2wish4 / 5/15/09 / TTP Eng. / Evo 9 / FP RED, 93oct+meth, Full Weight / 7.46 / 11.413ET
16. WannaRace / 06/26/2009 / Myself / Evo 8 / FP RED, E85 / 11.455ET
17. markymark1082 / 6/4/09 / TTP Engineering / Evo 8 / FP RED, 93oct / 7.452 / 11.610ET
18. Macaroni / 07/02/09 / Myself / Evo 8 / FP RED, pump gas / 11.61ET
19. R/TErnie / 6/12/09 / R/TErnie Race Engineering / Evo 9 / FP RED, EcuFlash, pump/race gas mix / 7.752 / 11.970ET
20. silver9mr / 6/12/09 / Myself / Evo 9 MR / FP RED, 93 pump / 11.98ET
AS i said before bbk or fp green , there both good turbos , i heard , and listened about bbk , now its my turn to do green talking ..
no intention to offend bbk , results r results like it or not , map made it to the list , i would love to get bbk in there i know there capable , but till i see some bbk in there , even the old green is a good choice
Last edited by evo7girl; Aug 7, 2009 at 03:27 PM. Reason: words words words
IM OFF TOPIC , BUT IM IN THE REAL WORLD
1. Anibal BBQ / 5/27/09 / Anibal BBQ / Evo 9 / FP RED, AEM, SparkTech Pro CDI system / 9.527ET
2. Most-Wanted / 02/06/09 / AWDMOTORSPORTS / Evo 9 / FP RED, Buschur Built 2.0L, E85, Crispeed Tuned / 9.535ET
3. Ryu / 4/9/09 / TTP Engineering / Evo 9 / FP RED, 93oct+meth / 6.679 / 10.301ET
4. David Buschur (driven by Trent Stanley) / 07/07/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 8 / FP RED, BR2.3, E85, StockECU / 6.826 / 10.353ET
5. StreetThisEVO / 7/24/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 9 / FP RED, BR2.0, E85, Stock ECU / 6.7559 / 10.5080ET
6. OKIX / 3/19/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 9 / FP GREEN , BR 2.0/ 6.79 / 10.56ET
7. Diiirk / 1/10/09 / AWD Motorsports / Evo 9 / FP GREEN, E85, Jestr Tuned, Stock Motor / 10.72ET
8. CWiLL / 4/15/09 / CWiLL / Evo 8 / FP RED, E85, stockecu / 7.1 / 10.82ET
9. DanniEVOIX / 13-06-2009 / My Self / Evo 9 / FP RED, Stock motor, 93oct / 11.027ET
10. Silk / 7/11/09 / DB & MAP / Evo 8 / FP RED, GSC S1s, Stock block, Full weight, Street tires, E85 / 11.107ET
11. marrrk / 5/31/09/ Strictly Modified / Evo 9 / FP GREEN, e85 / 7.19 / 11.197ET
12. Liqquid / 5/24/09 / Switzer Performance / Evo 8 / FP GREEN, Pro-EFI ecu, E85 / 11.29ET
13. Fookster / 7/11/09 / MAPerformance / Evo 8 / MAP SST, AEM, BC 280s, Built 2.0, E85 / 11.348ET
14. nochance / 5/24/09/ Myself & My Wife / Evo 8 MR / FP RED, Built 2.0L, 93oct, Buschur Tune / 11.409ET
15. Evo2wish4 / 5/15/09 / TTP Eng. / Evo 9 / FP RED, 93oct+meth, Full Weight / 7.46 / 11.413ET
16. WannaRace / 06/26/2009 / Myself / Evo 8 / FP RED, E85 / 11.455ET
17. markymark1082 / 6/4/09 / TTP Engineering / Evo 8 / FP RED, 93oct / 7.452 / 11.610ET
18. Macaroni / 07/02/09 / Myself / Evo 8 / FP RED, pump gas / 11.61ET
19. R/TErnie / 6/12/09 / R/TErnie Race Engineering / Evo 9 / FP RED, EcuFlash, pump/race gas mix / 7.752 / 11.970ET
20. silver9mr / 6/12/09 / Myself / Evo 9 MR / FP RED, 93 pump / 11.98ET
AS i said before bbk or fp green , there both good turbos , i heard , and listened about bbk , now its my turn to do green talking ..
no intention to offend bbk , results r results like it or not , map made it to the list , i would love to get bbk in there i know there capable , but till i see some bbk in there , even the old green is a good choice
1. Anibal BBQ / 5/27/09 / Anibal BBQ / Evo 9 / FP RED, AEM, SparkTech Pro CDI system / 9.527ET
2. Most-Wanted / 02/06/09 / AWDMOTORSPORTS / Evo 9 / FP RED, Buschur Built 2.0L, E85, Crispeed Tuned / 9.535ET
3. Ryu / 4/9/09 / TTP Engineering / Evo 9 / FP RED, 93oct+meth / 6.679 / 10.301ET
4. David Buschur (driven by Trent Stanley) / 07/07/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 8 / FP RED, BR2.3, E85, StockECU / 6.826 / 10.353ET
5. StreetThisEVO / 7/24/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 9 / FP RED, BR2.0, E85, Stock ECU / 6.7559 / 10.5080ET
6. OKIX / 3/19/09 / Buschur Racing / Evo 9 / FP GREEN , BR 2.0/ 6.79 / 10.56ET
7. Diiirk / 1/10/09 / AWD Motorsports / Evo 9 / FP GREEN, E85, Jestr Tuned, Stock Motor / 10.72ET
8. CWiLL / 4/15/09 / CWiLL / Evo 8 / FP RED, E85, stockecu / 7.1 / 10.82ET
9. DanniEVOIX / 13-06-2009 / My Self / Evo 9 / FP RED, Stock motor, 93oct / 11.027ET
10. Silk / 7/11/09 / DB & MAP / Evo 8 / FP RED, GSC S1s, Stock block, Full weight, Street tires, E85 / 11.107ET
11. marrrk / 5/31/09/ Strictly Modified / Evo 9 / FP GREEN, e85 / 7.19 / 11.197ET
12. Liqquid / 5/24/09 / Switzer Performance / Evo 8 / FP GREEN, Pro-EFI ecu, E85 / 11.29ET
13. Fookster / 7/11/09 / MAPerformance / Evo 8 / MAP SST, AEM, BC 280s, Built 2.0, E85 / 11.348ET
14. nochance / 5/24/09/ Myself & My Wife / Evo 8 MR / FP RED, Built 2.0L, 93oct, Buschur Tune / 11.409ET
15. Evo2wish4 / 5/15/09 / TTP Eng. / Evo 9 / FP RED, 93oct+meth, Full Weight / 7.46 / 11.413ET
16. WannaRace / 06/26/2009 / Myself / Evo 8 / FP RED, E85 / 11.455ET
17. markymark1082 / 6/4/09 / TTP Engineering / Evo 8 / FP RED, 93oct / 7.452 / 11.610ET
18. Macaroni / 07/02/09 / Myself / Evo 8 / FP RED, pump gas / 11.61ET
19. R/TErnie / 6/12/09 / R/TErnie Race Engineering / Evo 9 / FP RED, EcuFlash, pump/race gas mix / 7.752 / 11.970ET
20. silver9mr / 6/12/09 / Myself / Evo 9 MR / FP RED, 93 pump / 11.98ET
AS i said before bbk or fp green , there both good turbos , i heard , and listened about bbk , now its my turn to do green talking ..
no intention to offend bbk , results r results like it or not , map made it to the list , i would love to get bbk in there i know there capable , but till i see some bbk in there , even the old green is a good choice
Patience!! the BBK just got into the market!!!
evo7girl -- Nice list...The Green and Red have had great accomplishments....My gut tells me several of those drivers could hit unreal numbers with a stock turbo (their cars and driving skills are just amazing)....For everyday drivers, as most on this thread are, just look at the same car on the same dyno and compare the curves. When you do this, you'll see the Red is no longer the default stock-like turbo king (IMHO).
Search for GSTs threads on BBKs, Greens, and Reds on their dyno ....The Reds have a bit more peak power, but get killed area under the curve. Would I love to have a Red over my stock 9, absolutely! Would I love to have a BBK Full over my 9, absolutely! In the end the more options out there, the better it is for all of us (e.g. new FTA Green )....
Search for GSTs threads on BBKs, Greens, and Reds on their dyno ....The Reds have a bit more peak power, but get killed area under the curve. Would I love to have a Red over my stock 9, absolutely! Would I love to have a BBK Full over my 9, absolutely! In the end the more options out there, the better it is for all of us (e.g. new FTA Green )....
there really isnt that much out there yet on the hta green as far as 2.0l pump graphs. the only one ive seen it made 431/369 on a dynojet.
just based off of that the bbk will outperform the new green on pump gas. my bbk made 400 on chad's (cbrd's) mustang dyno. i will be heading to a local dynojet soon, i will post up my results with the bbk after i do. ive got a really good feeling that it will be quite a bit higher then 431.
jeff
just based off of that the bbk will outperform the new green on pump gas. my bbk made 400 on chad's (cbrd's) mustang dyno. i will be heading to a local dynojet soon, i will post up my results with the bbk after i do. ive got a really good feeling that it will be quite a bit higher then 431.
jeff
You got to also think about if that green was tuned on 91 or 93.
Neither do I. If I wanted to drag race all the time I would have got the Red like CBRD suggested to me, but I went with the BBK because of the spool and broad curve. I'll be at the track on the 19th though just to give it a shot. I'll guarantee the numbers won't impress since I've never been to the track before.


