Because I said it would.

 

Thanks I'm more interested in is why or where is the design flaw when used with the MAF? I'm running the FP 3" intake and I have no issues but I'm wondering why?

 

Some people think it's the number of bends, other believe it's the proximity to the turbo. Your FP intake is a Perrin clone with a 3" inlet to fit larger turbos but the Perrin is really the only intake I'm aware of that doesn't mess up your idle and still makes power.

 

Sorry about that I went back and read. So I guess having a HKS RS intake was also a good choice on stock turbo. Very good info.

 

It is with the exception of the terrible HKS filter used. There have been filtration tests that have proved the HKS intake to be one of the worst filtering intakes on the market

 

well aren't you the badass
I didn't have any issues with mine (no new cams installed yet, still the small hks cams) until I removed the falling apart honeycomb, now I've got a couple issues I need to iron out, but I'm putting all that off til the cams and springs are installed.

yes, I know I'm lazy

 

Yeah Damien many believe it had to do with the amount of bends. Our FP intakes have the double bend design like the stocker rubber pipe. The ETS has one slight bend in it but is almost completely straight through. Needless to say the stock MAF doesn't like that design. And as far as the Perrin intake, I think that most of the power comes from their media filter design (per CBRD's and many others' test results), and not so much the pipe itself (which is why I have one for my 3" setup ).

 

This thread is entertaining. Im going to take my intake and throw it on 2 different evo's and if i cant make them idle like stock I'll retract my previous statement about the intake.

 

now i know what i need to buy

 

Believe it or not the Perrin actually makes more power with their intake tube as well as the filter. If you search a bit you'll find the original post they made for their intake when they started selling it as a kit and overall it made close to 30 whp as opposed to CBRD & the filter shootout's gains which were about half of that.

 

That was going from untuned to tuned. I did read that article long ago, meaning if you already picked up the power from a previous intake (which all do, just some are finnicky with the MAF, also assuming you're tuned which you should), and a tune, the rest lies in the filter (as in CBRD's test results, with and without their tube ). So that's that. Remember CBRD's test was going from an already tuned car, just swapping the filter. NO other changes. You have to read between the lines when reading threads like that (30WHP claims from an intake, when 1/2 of that is just from the tune itself).

 

Yeah I'm still running the filter now I have to put that Amsoil filter on there.

 

so do i go FP rubber 3" intake? or do i go Perrin intake?

 

^^ i think there the same?

 

The FP has a 3" inlet for the turbo opposed to where the Perrin is a little smaller to suit the smaller turbo inlet. If you're running the stock turbo you want to run the Perrin but if you're running the Red you wanna go with the FP intake