Liqquid

I'm not sure on that, I believe though that 9sec9 had his car on both Buschurs and Switzers dyno maybe he remembers the difference... my car with cams, 3" tbe, drop in, O2 house and MBC set for about 23psi made 325/325 on the stock 8 turbo/10.5 hotside

Levar

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OK. Thanks. Maybe OKIX will chime in later.

Toxin

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Why do you guys always change a dynojet figure to a mustang figure? Mustang is adjustable, dynojet isnt. Point?

I've got my mind set on BBK full, even if this green proves out to be slightly better... For the short wait and the customer service CBRD provides I'll still go with that.

Now not to get completely offtopic: looks out to be a good turbo. FP is doing better work from day to day so I'm sure this one will fit in their line of great products just fine.

Levar

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I understand that the test EVO was/is equipped with the 2.3L engine at 24PSI. I know that it might not be truly accurate (a best guess would do) but assuming that the test was done on a regular 2.0L, how much of a whp/wtq difference would be seen?

Levar

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So, your point is that Dynojets give you a "no crap" estimate of your whp/wtq, right?

I understand about your CBRD customer service comments as they continue to prove outstanding customer service. I did a rough estimate of average whp/wtq between the 73HTA vs. BBK Full.

Findings...

The two turbos used are the 73HTA set at 24PSI on pump 93 octane and the BBK Full set at 24PSI on pump 93 octane. The 73HTA made 452whp/415wtq (Mustang dyno) and the BBK Full made 397whp/348wtq (Mustang dyno). For the comparison, I used a shifting point of 7500 RPM as that is the typical shifting point (recommended without springs/retainers). This gives us six axis to work with. How does this equate to power under the curve (keep in mind that the 73HTA is on a 2.3L)?

73HTA:
2400: 95whp/170wtq
3420: 240whp/340wtq
4440: 360whp/410wtq
5460: 425whp/390wtq
6480: 465whp/360wtq
7500: 470whp/331wtq
Average: 343whp/331wtq

BBK Full:
2400: 80whp/160wtq
3420: 175whp/270wtq
4440: 280whp/345wtq
5460: 350whp/335wtq
6480: 380whp/320wtq
7500: 400whp/295wtq
Average: 277whp/288wtq

Difference: 73HTA +66whp/43wtq

CBRD_Caleb

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/end comparison.

Levar

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C'mon Caleb, I mentioned that in my post. It was a way of showing one of my friends that the BBK Full still has a place in spite of all the hype.

jouniu

hmmm what is the point to compare 2.0 and 2.3 at the same boost? Add 15% boost to 2.0 and then you are in the same territory. Stroked 2.3 is always different story than short stroke 2.0.

Itchy

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any word if its possible to get the older gen green turbo to become the new hta73?

CBRD_Caleb

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I certainly didn't want you to take offense to that. If that's how you took it, I apologize. I just was pointing out that it wasn't a really apples to apples comparo. Again, I apologize.

cij911

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You go to all the trouble to look at data but are comparing two different setups (built 2.3 vs. stock 2.0), on two different dynos (so numbers can't be compared), on two different days....TEST and ANALYSIS IS FLAWED -- sorry....

Three ways to get a better understanding of the turbos: (1) wait for more cars to start publishing results (get an idea of the range), (2) flow both turbos -- few places have the capability of this, (3) test both turbos on the same car, with the same tuner, on the same day....

CBRD

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dont worry about the extra .3 liters... its a throw away

hee he

cb

Levar

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Chad, that it too funny. Like I've been telling the guys here in Iraq, the BBK Full still has as strong place on the market and time will tell if it's able to be outdone at the 47-ish lbs/min rating. I know it's apples and oranges comparing numbers of this nature with all of the factors involved. There is really nothing else to do here in Iraq once the bad guys go to sleep than EVO stuff for us enthusiasts.

Cali2MDevo8

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The STi guys throw the extra displacement away : )

zx40

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I'm really curious to see some comparisons of these two turbos. I've had my eyes on a BBK Full at some point in the near future, but I'm curious how this new Green compares.