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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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ok. well i took that video after i changed the #1 plug and tightened the manifold so it wasnt as loud. but since the stud is comming out, it started to make the loud tapping noise at warm up again. I am also starting to think its one of the valves. Im going to Pull 2 degree on my Cams to see if that is the issue ( +2 - 0 degrees) both intake and exhaust. qill post updates later today.
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 01:37 AM
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So today i took a look at the cams. and the Exhast cam was more advanced then the Intake. Meaning at TDC exhaust was atleast a full tooth off or more. I pulled about 4 degree of timing from Exhaust side and set intake side to 0. Now i have more of a loopy idle (Normal for 272's)
Less ticking at start up, but does still Tick Hard when accelerating, and will have to retune the ecu (running rich)
So maybe the valve is hitting the Piston..... if i have some extra time i will remove the head this weekend and take a look. Hopefully the piston is not screwed because im low on funds. PERFECT TIMING. HAHA like always.
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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It sounded like a lifter at idle, but once you revved it, I thought differently. I've never heard a lifter get that loud... maybe if it's completely collapsed.

If you run the car with the #1 plug out and the noise goes away, it's probably a rod bearing. Without compression beating down on it, the rod will quiet down.

However, I don't think that's your problem. I think you've tapped a valve on the piston. Compression test is a good place to start. If it's low in cylinder 1, do a leak down test.

Are you running upgraded springs with those 272's? What are you revving to?
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RapedApe
It sounded like a lifter at idle, but once you revved it, I thought differently. I've never heard a lifter get that loud... maybe if it's completely collapsed.

If you run the car with the #1 plug out and the noise goes away, it's probably a rod bearing. Without compression beating down on it, the rod will quiet down.

However, I don't think that's your problem. I think you've tapped a valve on the piston. Compression test is a good place to start. If it's low in cylinder 1, do a leak down test.

Are you running upgraded springs with those 272's? What are you revving to?
I have not tried taking out the plug and running it. never even though of doing that. but will try this weekend. I to think i have hit the valve on the Piston Also my exhuast manifold is not sealed on that side (due to the bolts) So when i tightened it as good as i could the Loud ticking was not as loud. When i start it now, it doesnt tick at all. But under acceleration when the motor is not fully warmed it ticks loudly. When warm does not tick at all, or i cant hear it.

Currently not running Springs with the 272's, will be upgrading soon with the next head (Currently in progress)
Got new 1mm over lifters in and waiting on springs to come in.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:05 PM
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Have you ever figured out this issue? I stated hearing the same noise between 3k and 5k rpms.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoVIII808
Here are some videos. 1 is the Idle Warm up, and the other is a few revs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms8wJ6WcxMo (Rev)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbbJWPUq-rc (warmup)
Sounds like lifter tick or even a exhaust leak. It's funny, because another guy on here is having a similar problem and i believe you both have an exhaust leak. Like i told him, could be lifter tick as well....but i see you're missing some nuts on your manifold. I would start by R&R your exhaust manifold. See where that gets ya. Exhaust leaks will sound a lot like noisy lifters to the untrained ear.

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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Have you tried pulling the spark to that cylinder? The car will run like crap on 3 cylinders but you should easily be able to determine if the noise is gone. (If the noise gone, its likely rod knock, but not definitive proof.)
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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Just remember exhaust leaks can often sound very metallic like a ticking.
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