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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Nvm i found it, its the side facing towards the cabin. It look likes its leaking somewhere around the hex screw and the screw right next to that. Perhaps a little off the seal too.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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The wastegate flapper arm cannot be sealed with conventional seals because of the massive heat the exhaust makes. The flapper arm is simply very closely fit through the housing so the actuator arm can attach to it. To leak there with a boost leak test is a little odd since you should only notice it if are driving the car since it is on the exhaust side of the turbo.

A boost leak in that area, to me, indicates the turbo itself is leaking from the intake side to the exhaust side. But, if you are taking 4 minutes to leak down it really isn't an issue because there will never be a time when you will be at full boost for 4 minutes. Not to mention that the turbo isnt spinning and there isn't any oil pressure within it. In other words...don't worry about it.

As for post # 15....An easy way to ensure your TB seals are, in fact, leaking is to wiggle the throttle cable attachment slightly when the system is under pressure. If the sound of the leak changes when you wiggle the cable attachment, your TB seals are leaking. Since you have an 03....I suspect they are leaking.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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My 03 is fine, its the RS that is leaking.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Appauldd
The wastegate flapper arm cannot be sealed with conventional seals because of the massive heat the exhaust makes. The flapper arm is simply very closely fit through the housing so the actuator arm can attach to it. To leak there with a boost leak test is a little odd since you should only notice it if are driving the car since it is on the exhaust side of the turbo.

A boost leak in that area, to me, indicates the turbo itself is leaking from the intake side to the exhaust side. But, if you are taking 4 minutes to leak down it really isn't an issue because there will never be a time when you will be at full boost for 4 minutes. Not to mention that the turbo isnt spinning and there isn't any oil pressure within it. In other words...don't worry about it.

As for post # 15....An easy way to ensure your TB seals are, in fact, leaking is to wiggle the throttle cable attachment slightly when the system is under pressure. If the sound of the leak changes when you wiggle the cable attachment, your TB seals are leaking. Since you have an 03....I suspect they are leaking.
couldn't have said it better myself. It sounded like it was coming from the flapper area, and 35-40psi is no joke. It didn't help the engine was completely cold and sitting 24hrs+ so the turbo seal could have even been seeing some blowby.
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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TB seals leaking for the fact that its an 03 and has aged or do 03 have issues related to the seals?
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky
The wastegate flapper valve functions only to "bleed-off"(bypass) exhaust gases from the turbine inlet area of the turbine housing. It is not normal for the integral wastegate flapper valve on the turbine housing to bleed-off any intake air whatsoever. This is not normal.

EDIT: My best guess is that you were refering to the WGA cannister and the actuator rod which emerges from it. Right?
im sure you already figured it out, but the flapper is not possible to be air tight sealed. Mike from AWD gave me the information which caused me to get the question resolved for the initial post on this thread.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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TB seals leaking for the fact that its an 03 and has aged or do 03 have issues related to the seals?
Originally Posted by tien
My 03 is fine, its the RS that is leaking.
if the noise is coming from the throttle body area and you jiggle the shaft and the tone of the air noise changes then yes, its the shaft seals........ its not a big job so don't worry.

where to buy the seals: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...available.html

"how to" for procedure: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...aft-seals.html

When pushing the new seals in, use a screwdriver to make sure it goes in flush or use a socket.... don't bang the seal in uneven or it will damage it.

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