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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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sounds like she's gunna be a beast.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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huh? The DSM/EVO community has been boosting the 4g64 block for a while now, the only real downside being no oil squirters in the block.

MAPerformance just ran their 4g64 powered FD to an 8.4 @ 161, seems like it is holding up just fine.
Yes I know there are tons of high HP 4g64s...I was just curious if you researched the block strength...I am in no way saying what I heard was right and was curious if you heard anything of the like....I am looking at building a 2.2 to 2.4L and have been considering the 4g64 ...
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by detroit pistins
sorry for ur loss man.

How many miles did u put on it since u last dyno'ed it # 400+ whp? and who tuned it for ya btw?
also, what type of oil were u using?
all of this data should help us all in the future.
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Looks like I only made it about 9k miles after all of the boltons and tune to 422
ER - this failure wasn't tune related, there is no sign of detonation on the head or broken piston.
Mobil1 religiously changed
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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^I knew Mobil1 sucks! J/k, just playing the role of zealot.

Sorry to hear about the mileage...maybe I'll look into that 4g64 sooner than later. cij, when talking about a stroker with Aaron from ER he recommended the 4g64 to me. I'm thinking of going with the 2.2L as I don't really see chasing the dragon of über-high hp/low ET cars.

This is my DD so going with something that will provide more tq but still rev similar to stock is what I'm looking for.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 12:03 AM
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Yahu,
I'm also looking at doing a 4G64 block right now. This thread scares my Transfer case more than my block!

I can get brand new 4G64 Blocks with 100mm cranks for $1050.00 I'm still up in the air with what stroke/rev's I want to pursue. More noodling required.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyTSi
Looks like I only made it about 9k miles after all of the boltons and tune to 422
ER - this failure wasn't tune related, there is no sign of detonation on the head or broken piston.
Mobil1 religiously changed

what was ur boost? on what fuel?
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 06:09 AM
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what was ur boost? on what fuel?
28 tapering off on top

e85
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
Yahu,
I'm also looking at doing a 4G64 block right now. This thread scares my Transfer case more than my block!

I can get brand new 4G64 Blocks with 100mm cranks for $1050.00 I'm still up in the air with what stroke/rev's I want to pursue. More noodling required.
Nice! I assume you'd be doing the build too, huh? I don't have the tools, time, or space to do that, unfortunately.

OT - I assume you got your turbo, and you're at ~540whp?! Did you just stick with the Red? Was that on C-16 again? dayum!!
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Some more Pictures:











The top 2 rings are intact and spin freely in thier groove! Again, no sign of a bad tune, just plain outright mechanical failure!
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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god, your setup sounds like mine, 450 hp, 30 lbs of boost, e85... just finished everything a few hundred miles ago... i am starting to have nightmares...
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Holy crap Johnny, you sure know how to break em. Sounds like she will be a beast with the new rebuild. ER will definitely build a bad *** block.
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Holy crap Johnny, you sure know how to break em. Sounds like she will be a beast with the new rebuild. ER will definitely build a bad *** block.
I'm still trying to figure out what to do for a turbo! so far my choices are

rock the stock IX
convert my old fp3052 over to an .82 t3 exhaust housing
use the ATP gt30 hotside on my fp3052 (I have a used one I picked up on my workbench)
have fp do a red conversion on my IX core.

decisions decisions

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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 11:17 PM
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We talked about it at lunch, ease of change and power return got the Red voted into office.
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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 02:47 AM
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^nice! That is what I'm rocking, and plan to be running on an eventual stroker. Then I might jump to a hta35, or whatever the new hawtness is at the time.

*edit - I was thinking about this earlier and was wondering if the issue with the piston cast would be considered a "flaw" when running in an "out of spec" scenario. I'd hate to call it a feature, though.

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Old Oct 8, 2009 | 03:14 AM
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A little of JB weld will fix that block
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