HAHAHA what he said^

 

lol your a funny guy

yeah i think i'm going with the black since it comes with the oil feed line which make it the same price as the red

does the red spool that much faster then the black?

do i need a twin pump or can i use my 255 walbo & bigger injectors?

 

Good. You will be happy. The spool difference is ~200 RPM. I highly doubt you ever notice it. The fuel system depends on what kind of fuel you will be running and what kind of boost you will be using.
I am going to be doing a new build with a black. Personally I am going to run a double pumper with ID2200s and run E85.
Talk to your tuner, tell them your goals and they will be able to tell you what fuel system will best suit you.

 

double pumper and upgraded injectors 1000cc and up a +.

 

Agreed ^ I would go with 1200cc Injectors personally.

 

i'm only going to be boosting 25psi-26psi 93oct i just want to be a bit over 400whp, if i run a single 255 walbo & 1000cc injectors will i be ok??

 

There are a lot of people saying go Black over Red, but I have only seen one test and that was at 40psi....I know Arnel works for FP, but wouldn't it be wise to wait and see more data on the turbo before recommending it over something that has been proven ???

 

I'm about to get my car tuned for the first time this weekend with just TBE, o2 housing, walboro fuel pump, SRI, UICP and LICP and Hallman Boost controller. Planning on starting on a bigger turbo set up and was considering the FP Black, what other upgrades are needed to actually see the potential of the FP Black? Kind of planning on the same tuning parameters and goals as the OP.

 

Minimum: FMIC, Injectors, e85 or Meth, clutch, intake

Moderate: Minimum + cams + catch cans (DC2 or the like)

Advanced: Moderate + Built motor

Some would argue if you are going with a Black (high boost), you should build your motor first...

I wonder why folks that are looking at a FP Black don't go a 35R variant or the like - seems like the top end would better and have dual ball bearing or the new ceramic bearings....

 

Yes you will be fine.

 

9sec9 has data at lower boost. You should be able to find it fairly easily.

The 35R has quite a bit more lag, plus it is no longer stock appearing and requires a manifold, external gate, dump, etc. They really are two completely different options.

 

not to mention 35r kits are like 4k and the black is only 2k and uses equipment you already have . lol as already stated they are in two different classes and better spool with the black. I would say if your not going to build your motor do not waste your money on a black. Might as well go red. People act like the black on 25-26 psi is going to blow the red out the water. you will have average results at best but i guess we all need to see somebody run it at low boost so everybody can see. that same car with a red will do the same whp just faster . the only real benifit i can see to going black early is to have it in place so when you do build the motor soon hopifully then you can take true advantage of it. if all you ever want in life is 400-450 whp i would say the fp red and or bbk full then on e85 hta green would be better suited and you dont have to worry about building the motor ever or sacrific spool. you still get the power you wanted with room to grow. I also understand the folks that state you will want more power. Not everybody that drives a evo is going to be obsessed with more power. More cost going into it and higher chances of things breaking as well. People tend to forget real fast that a 650 whp evo is more likely to have things break on them then a 450 whp car.

Then again its your money so buy what you want just dont think you have to buy it because its the newest on the block

 

I have to agree with da Rock. If you really feel you will only ever need 400 - 450 whp then you should stick with Red or BBK Full. If you want that "new kid on the block" feeling, then wait for the BBK-B, or whatever it will be called. That turbo seems to spool very quickly and will get you where you want to go, and probably a bit further.

Something to consider OP is what you're running now. I'm guessing the stock turbo. If you jumped straight to the black I think you would notice considerable lag compared to what you're used to. I could see that resulting in disappointment.

Personally I plan to run the black on meth with 850s and a single on my stock block. I don't plan on pushing it too hard as my block won't take much more! It is more of a "let's see if I can get a bit more while future-proofing myself for an eventual stroker. We'll see what happens.

 

Usually single pumps max out around 460-470. So if you want more then a double pumper is in your future.

 

what the reliability of the double pump??