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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Forced Performance Turbos - Compressor Cover Leak Notice

Everyone knows Forced Performance has turned out some great turbos. I own one, and I am a strong advocate of their work. However, something has come to my attention that anyone who owns one, or plans to own one should know.

I have an HTA3582. Drifto has an HTA3076. I have the previous style of compressor cover, he has the present style. The one thing we both have in common is that our compressor covers both leak at the base - each badly enough to warrant attention. Mine appears to be especially bad, and revealed itself as a fairly audible rush of air when pressurized above 20psi.

The fix (which he has already done) is to simply remove the cover, and replace with a good bead of Permatex gray acting as a gasket. Do this whether or not your cover has an o-ring, as they both seem to leak equally. With this easy piece of insurance, you can be assured of not having a leak that is no fun to fix after the turbo is installed.

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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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good info
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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wow good to know as i just bought a red w/80mm cover!

but what is Permatex gray?
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Permatex "Ultra Grey" sensor-safe gasket sealer.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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very interesting, wonder who else has had such an issue with these types of compressor housings.. anyway, great info..
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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I have not noticed this with my red. I will have to check as well...
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Ted B always helping the community, definitely lives up to the title "EvoM guru"
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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good info
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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does it effect the 80mm reds and blacks etc?
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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I've seen turbos from various sources not having compressor cover o-rings. My off-the-shelf gt35r did not have one.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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It doesn't seem to matter if it has an o-ring or not. Mine has an o-ring and leaks like a sieve.

Does this apply to the Mitsubishi style turbos (e.g. FP Red, Black, Green, etc.)? I do not know.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 06:02 AM
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did you find this through a boost leak test?
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 06:42 AM
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I was doing a little 93 octane tune and ran into an issue. I thought I had everything sorted, and then I observed this:



G = rpm
AE = boost
AT = 2-byte load
AW = airflow

Observe how boost pressure drops almost 10 psi from 6000 to 7000 rpm. I had to turn the GM 3-port solenoid to 100% WGDC to get anything greater than 25 psi, and when I finally did, I got a big spike and a subsequent dropoff in boost, load, and airflow. Obviously, something is wrong here. Good thing I had my big water injection system activated as a safety precaution.

When I pressure tested it, a hardly noticeable waft of air behind the compressor cover became an audible woosh as I turned the regulator past 25psi. Now, I have to determine I am going to be able to address this issue without pulling the darn turbo off the car (I have a big T4 hotside).
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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good info!
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
It doesn't seem to matter if it has an o-ring or not. Mine has an o-ring and leaks like a sieve.

Does this apply to the Mitsubishi style turbos (e.g. FP Red, Black, Green, etc.)? I do not know.
I've never, ever seen a comp. cover with an o-ring leak. This applies to all MHI turbos and some Borg Warners that I've run. I've not seen a Garrett BB CHRA that used an o-ring though.

I always put a thin coat of grey RTV on the seal between the backplate and comp. cover on any install if there isn't an o-ring, though. Otherwise you're almost guaranteed a leak there. I'm still shocked that every turbo supplier doesn't supply directions for doing so, as this seems to occur over and over on various forums.
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