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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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e85, turbo back exhaust, 255lph fuel pump, 1050 fic injectors will get you there. Btw stock box is good for 350whp on a mustang dyno
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by evogirl916
e85, turbo back exhaust, 255lph fuel pump, 1050 fic injectors will get you there. Btw stock box is good for 350whp on a mustang dyno

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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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You could always do a silicone intake pipe that works with the stock airbox (Perrin or Samco) and then a Perrin drop-in air filter. I just did this setup on a guys car who didn't want the typical intake noise and he is very happy with it.
What I have been trying to anser is if there are big differences between the SAMCO and the Perrin Intake pipe (or hose). They look very similar and even have preety much the same shape, but there are not many reviews of them. Specially the Samco unit.

Samco uses metal fittings I am not sure what perrin uses.
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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I wonder how many have dynoed with the hood closed?
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Old Apr 18, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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mrfred's cardboard cold air box

Originally Posted by racer135
Bump for some pictures of mrfred cardboard setup.
There are four pieces total:

1) Top/back cover
2) "Left" side
3&4) Two lower pieces.

Hope these pics are good enough explanation. My guess is that this setup blocks about 90-95% of the heated engine air. Pretty good for the price of a box and a few hours of cutting and fitting. My plan is to paint the cardboard with urethane rubber paint. That ought to make it waterproof, insulate against heat a little better, and make the pieces last quite a long time. If anyone is wondering, the cold air box does reduce the turbo spool noise a bit.

Airbox top/back cover installed - Note that it wedges under the right fender sheet metal by about 1/8".


Airbox top/back cover removed showing cutouts for wiring harness and hoses on the back side of the cover.


"Left" side showing cutouts for air filter and stock cold air duct.


The two bottom pieces - Both serve to block hot air coming off the radiator. They are just wedged in there by virtue of a snug fit against hoses, brackets, and body panels.
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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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mrfred,

Thanks for the pictures. Are you using anything to push the filter to the back (closer to the battery) to clear the ACD? Or you are usint the same cardboard to keep the filter/MAF in place?

Out of curiosity are you using the stock rubber intake hose? Have you done ant VDR logs with this setup?

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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by racer135
mrfred,

Thanks for the pictures. Are you using anything to push the filter to the back (closer to the battery) to clear the ACD? Or you are usint the same cardboard to keep the filter/MAF in place?

Out of curiosity are you using the stock rubber intake hose? Have you done ant VDR logs with this setup?
Using the stock intake tube. The cardboard box does not hold the filter in position. It sits there all by itself. I just muscled the ACD reservior a little towards the fender. The filter rests right up against the bracket, and the intake tube is canted up just a bit. Overall, its a fine fit.

Haven't done any VDR logs yet, but I'm sure the box is working and will be beneficial.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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You can use either a Beatrush Intake Box (S93055CB) from 500whp or a Apexi Induction Box (517-M002) from Vividracing or others......

I have a post on MLR about Evo intake filter size if you wanna look.....

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=296528
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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The Beatrush item is more of a heat shield from air coming directly off the radiator rather than a true cold air box. The intake will still suck in plenty of hot air.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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Am I seeing this right... a cardboard airbox?
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig King
Am I seeing this right... a cardboard airbox?
- I plan to paint it with urethane paint to make it more water proof and a bit tougher.
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Old Apr 26, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
There are four pieces total:

1) Top/back cover
2) "Left" side
3&4) Two lower pieces.

Hope these pics are good enough explanation. My guess is that this setup blocks about 90-95% of the heated engine air. Pretty good for the price of a box and a few hours of cutting and fitting. My plan is to paint the cardboard with urethane rubber paint. That ought to make it waterproof, insulate against heat a little better, and make the pieces last quite a long time. If anyone is wondering, the cold air box does reduce the turbo spool noise a bit.

Airbox top/back cover installed - Note that it wedges under the right fender sheet metal by about 1/8".


Airbox top/back cover removed showing cutouts for wiring harness and hoses on the back side of the cover.


"Left" side showing cutouts for air filter and stock cold air duct.


The two bottom pieces - Both serve to block hot air coming off the radiator. They are just wedged in there by virtue of a snug fit against hoses, brackets, and body panels.
= WIN.

I really wish there were more option out there for something like this. I have resisted a small battery kit and i've tried hard to keep my AEM intake for this very reason. I did a lot of testing awhile back and found that the use of some sort of heat shield that allowed the use of the stock snorkel, decreased IATs at the MAF sensor drastically. Without some sort of heat shield, the intake heatsoaks fast and when you aren't using the stock snorkel, it's even worse.

Good job man.....now go make a few out of aluminum and i'll buy one.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
No way you'll make 350 whp DJ with a essentially a TBE (with test pipe) and a tune. LICP helps a bit, but you'll need cams to get there.

I've not seen any gains on the street when switching from a stock intake box with a Works drop-in and vented cover to an amsoil cone filter. It appears that the improved airflow is being offset by higher intake temps due to sucking in hot air from the radiatior. Once I get an airbox built around the filter, I expect the story will change a bit. BTW, during off-boost driving with a cone filter, there is no intake sucking sound.
Im with you on this one I have read pressure readouts that show with the stock turbo it is a wash between the cone unshielded pulling in hot air to the full box with a K&N drop in. Plus my friend was running mid 12s using a drop in. It has to be possible but the tune is the biggest part of that 350AWHP
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Old May 5, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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And that is a bad *** cardboard air box. well done sir.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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I second the request for aluminum or at least a pattern layout of the dimensions and what it looks like off the car and ill do it. I would def like to try and cover some of those holes but that is pretty nice.
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