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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 03:09 PM
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Autronics who uses it and how is it

I am just curious as to who has the new Autronics Evo 8 USDM PLug and PLay model installed and running and if its a daily driver and what the initial impressions are.... Thanks
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Its a wonderful unit - lots of great features !

Had some initial issue with engine fan - but it seems it was my bad - seems I didn't load in the correct softwear ! Can't beat Autronic custmer service - they called me right back !

Will try it again real soon and see how it works

More news at 5

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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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I had a SMC on a previous car.
The system, and software is good.
I was (and am) kind of turned off because of the cost of the wide band meter.
They are suppose to be putting out a smaller more econimical W/B in the future, but I heard that about 8 months ago...
the autotune option is great and makes off boost tunning a breeze.

My next standalone will be a MoTeC. The options are far worth the offset in cost.

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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by aaronyoung
I had a SMC on a previous car.
The system, and software is good.
I was (and am) kind of turned off because of the cost of the wide band meter.
They are suppose to be putting out a smaller more econimical W/B in the future, but I heard that about 8 months ago...
the autotune option is great and makes off boost tunning a breeze.

My next standalone will be a MoTeC. The options are far worth the offset in cost.

aaron
Did you ever find out what kind of crazy $$$ Motec charges to "unlock" those "options'?? If you could afford the Motec I think you could also afford a Porsche Turbo!

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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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We are running either the SM2 kits or the SMC kits on almost all our cars both road race and drag cars and have nothing but excellent results.

I am personally running the plug n play kit on my Evo as well. We had put it on awhile back when the Evo was still stock and it gave us such 'tunability' that it changed the whole car.

I'm sure some ppl will want more technical info on it, and either Steve at AussieImports (he's on this board too) can help with the questions or we will be glad to as well, as long as it's via PM or the phone.

All in all, this is the mod that I would start with so as to have the right platform to work with if you are serious about building power. Thanks.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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I want some more info on this product to. What i cant find is does this have knock control or any other safety things? Do i also have to buy some sensors for the plug and play version and whats the difference between smc and sm2 ?
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 12:01 AM
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We are running either the SM2 kits or the SMC kits on almost all our cars both road race and drag cars and have nothing but excellent results.

I am personally running the plug n play kit on my Evo as well. We had put it on awhile back when the Evo was still stock and it gave us such 'tunability' that it changed the whole car.

I'm sure some ppl will want more technical info on it, and either Steve at AussieImports (he's on this board too) can help with the questions or we will be glad to as well, as long as it's via PM or the phone.

All in all, this is the mod that I would start with so as to have the right platform to work with if you are serious about building power. Thanks.
Also - I'd like ti know if you can sue the factory o 2 meters for the auto tune function - OR - do you have to use the very costly autronic ones? Thanks
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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bump please answer
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by DynoFlash
Did you ever find out what kind of crazy $$$ Motec charges to "unlock" those "options'?? If you could afford the Motec I think you could also afford a Porsche Turbo!
The m4 ecu can be had for about 1700.00us
Unlocking the lambda option is about 650.00us
Unlocking the advanced functions is about 350.00us
plus a harness at about 350.00us
Prices sourced from the motec us catalog found here...
http://www.motec.com/catalog.htm

Compared to the SMC that cost about 1600us
The wide band analyzer that runs about 1600us
Prices sourced from aussie imports...
http://www.aussieimportsllc.com/SMCECU.htm
http://www.aussieimportsllc.com/Analyzer.htm


The cost is more similar that you might think.
Trust me I have been there.
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 06:36 AM
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Also - I'd like ti know if you can sue the factory o 2 meters for the auto tune function - OR - do you have to use the very costly autronic ones? Thanks
Honestly it never occurred to me to ask. I am pretty sure that you could, but why would you want to?

Narrow band 02 sensors are good in the range of @13:1 - 15:1 and that's it. A turbocharged engine should spend very little time in this range.

I feel confident that any tuner worth his or her salt would strongly advise against tuning with a narrow band sensor.

To take advantage of the autotune option and the autronic datalog options you WILL NEED at least, the model A analyzer.

Remember your end results are only as good as the equipment measuring them.

aaron
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 06:46 AM
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I want some more info on this product to. What i cant find is does this have knock control or any other safety things? Do i also have to buy some sensors for the plug and play version and whats the difference between smc and sm2 ?
you can find info at www.autronic.com

There is no knock sensing option.

The SMC is the basic ECU.
The SM2 is the more advanced ECU. It has stuff like traction control, more PWM channels, and a few other things.
Both have antilag

You should not need any sensors for the plug and play board.

There is a autronic message board FOR ADVANCED TUNING QUESTIONS ONLY here... http://www.aussieimportsllc.com/forum/list.php?f=2

Have fun, and look around before jumping in. Your investigations will be worth your while!

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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 07:01 AM
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Hi, I need to know some feedback about Greddy's E-Manage ECU. Has anyone tried it in their Evo and didn't like it? Problem with the Evo7 in our country, all ECUs have built-in immobilizer and no one knows how to bypass that.

Thanks in advance!
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 08:20 AM
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tanders dont take it the wrong way but I am trying to keep it Autronics only thanks. Alfriedesq I emailed Autronics tech support and Ray Hall responded right away about the radiator fan and it seems that you may have programmed it out. He said several are running on Evo's with no probelms. You may want some one with a heavy Autronics back ground to take a look.
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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This is true, we have no problems running the PnP board on our Evos.

Does not use the factory 02 sensor, and you would not want to anyway.
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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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It seems like it does log off one of the factory 02 sensors - and it seems to read very nicely actually ! I don;t know if its comming from the front or the back ??

I am swapping a head gasket tonight and tomorrow we will do some more playing it all goes well on the head side
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