I am not a fan of meth kits at all! Fail safe sounds good and all but, It has to fail for the fail safe to work. It only takes one stroke to horseshoe a rod.



-Em

 

Maybe you should start a post inquiring how many persons had blown motors with fail safe meth kits. I think it will be little to none

 

E-85 the good = hands down the best fuel to run. race gas power without the high cost.

E-85 the bad = not readily available to most. my closest pump is 71 miles from me. I bought a 275 gallon tank and made a nice filling station in back yard. that solved a couple of problems. no need to worry about content %. and it gave me a tank very close by. but for six months every time i left house i worried if I had enough fuel to get back home. my 13 gallon tank is now a 9 gallon tank because e-85 uses 30% more fuel. 9 gallon tank is really small. On three occasions I almost didnt make it home. On one sunday morning spirited drive I emptied full tank in 100 miles. map switching tune to 93 is not as easy as people make it sound. to do that you have to empty your tank. I had race gas in my tank once. I let gas gauge go to empty before filling with 93. four fill ups later (on 93) people were smelling the my fumes and asking me if i was running race gas. only way to eliminate this content % problem is with content analyzer and an ecu that auto compensates.

conclusion for me. i would never plan to run race gas in any of my street cars. It would be too expensive and far too impractical based on its extreme availability. E-85 lures you in because its cheap. but make no mistake. its race gas by availability standards.
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actually do a poll how many have meth kits and how many run e85. then how many have blown motors. The results would be interesting.

 

I have been running meth for a year now. No problems but I also have all my failsafes covered in case there is a problem. I will run meth for another year and maybe switch to E85 for next summer. Hopefully by then there will be a lot more E85 stations around.

 

out of both ignorance and curiosity....can u have a meth kit and e-85 at the same time?

What value or issues would that great?

Thanks,

 

Been running E85 for almost a year with no issues. I think Mike @ AWDMotorsports did a tear down of a motor that he ran exclusively on E85 and it looked "cleaner" then a motor that ran pump gas.

I have no cold start issues and we've had some sub zero weather this year. I start once it dies...start again and we we're all good. I cold mess with my map but I'm not killing my starter so why bother messing with it.

If the question asked assumes that availability isn't an issue then E85 all the way. If its not readily available then you don't really have a choice.

I'd much rather not having to worry about a fail safe.

Also on the cost factor I have no clue who said its more expensive or simpler but to run E all you need is bigger injectors (you should have that anyway), an inline bosch 044 (for your power goals no need to go double pumper) and a 25 map switch (ala fast freddie on this site)....even if you did go double pumper it would be about the same as getting a decent meth kit so cost is a non-factor.

Only bas thing about it is gas mileage......its cheaper then regular but because you are burning 30% more fuel so you will end up spending a little less then what you would week to week for premium so the cost effectiveness isn't really there but if you consider that you are getting race fuel for cheaper then regular octane you can't complain.

In short if you can find E85 easily in your area then its a no-brainer.....if its difficult to get consistently then I can see considering meth..... I wouldn't but it would make more sense.

 

^^^ Over kill by far! Liquid compression and over cooling. The benefit of W/I is cooling with 30-50% more fuel from E85 you get plenty of cooling.

E85 + Nitrous makes the most chemical/thermal sense.


The big question isn't the fuel as a power adder as we all know its good... The question is political and whether or not E85 will be around much longer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9QQcP_Y1II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV-vSTCln4Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_syYtcy69E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCcyi5xiJZI


Solar and electric are much more likely to be the way of the future. This is no way saying I don't like E85 or there users but it saying it wont be around much longer till the other forms of alcohol can start being produce which wont happen due to space.

I choose water injection as I can run at any track in the US and not worry about a fuel source. And in over 8 years of water injection and over 4 Aquamist kits I have NEVER had any failure of their systems, or their pumps. I have ran out of fluid, had little mishaps but never anything causing ANY motor issue. Go cheap on the kit and using the wrong injection mixture will cause these destructive failures.

Respectfully,

Evan Smith

 

from what i have read no you can reach mbt with just E-85 so meth wouldent be needed

 

A lot of people have said E85 is going to go away.....its not. They are also developing other types of ways to make E85 that isn't harmful to environment. I've actually spoken to a E85 retrofitter's and they said they haven't been busier across the country. Companies keep making flex fuel models of vehicles.

 

^^^ On the contrary it will quit being subsidized by over .50 cents a gallon this year! and there isn't ONE cellulose e85 refinery in the USA. Its all political and if it wasn't for the farmers vote this wouldn't matter.

Do you think if they made POT legal that the government would need subsidies its production? NO lol! IT wont meet the demand today and the demand is growing therefor it will go away as it cant even provide a 1/4 of the demand.

Companies such as GM and Ford have had over 20,000 flex fuel vehicles in production since the 1970's so thats not new either. If they could grow enough corn yes we would all be on E85...

25 gallons of E85 could feed a person for a year, and yet we have starving people all over this and many other countries. I think our priorities are messed up. Until cellulose E85 is in production I will stay on my 87 + H20 and 28 PSI!

Evan Smith