True PTE has their own center section now.They were using Garrett until they went their separate way about 6 months ago. I have not heard of too many durability problems with the new center section so to call it garbage is not fair. I have a customer coming in next week with a new ceramic 6262, we should be pushing it pretty hard ,it will be interesting to see how it holds up.

 

i just see pte's blowing up all over the place, journal bearing and ball bearing. i dont see garretts doing it. i personally went thru 2 in about 3,000 miles and there are a lot more people that have issues.

 

Ill beg to differ on this...

The 6162 is a cast wheel turbo that in NO WAY POSSIBLE could EVER make 740+whp @ 40psi like we just did with the HTA82..

As far as my opinion goes..

6567's - its a 6765 good for 900+whp makes 40+psi at 6000+

6265' - Good for just over 800whp and 40+ psi around 6000+

6262's - Good for almost 800whp and makes 40psi around 5500 or so

6162's - old technology cast wheel turbo about as equivalent as garett standard cast wheel 35r.. wont make 700+ most likely..


The HTA3582 we just ran spools faster than 6262 and makes as much power or more..

The HTA3586 spools around where the 6262 does but makes over 800 no problem..

There is about the best i can offer from the cars i have used all of them on with similar setups..

MIke

 

PTE now uses their own air cooled ceramic bearing cartridges.. No more Garrett unless specific to that turbo such as 6235r etc..

Mike

 

My friend made his decision to use the HTA86 very easily after you guys broke 900 with it.

 

Actually HTA86 wont make 900 that was a larger turbo we were using than HTA86 when we broke 900.. Still a great turbo though..

Mike

 

The smaller journal bearing turbos dont seem to last, but the DBB models dont commonly have problems, unless improperly installed or cause by something else. Some will argue, but the guys I usually see that have issues are ones that install themselves at home.

Mike,

How far have you guys pushed the HTA86? Ive seen roughly 800whp, but thats about it. Im curious to see where the limit of those is.

 

so the question is hta3582 non twin scroll or pte6262

 

We stopped just over 800 on 1 car we used it on.. We had atleast 4-5psi more to go though so i know 840+ is no issue..

Mike

 

I had what was basically a journal bearing 35r with a 71mm turbine wheel, spooled worse than a single scroll 45r, made no power and blew up in 2,000 miles. They fixed it and it blew less than 1,000 miles later. Replaced it with a real 35r and it spooled great, made a ton of power and held together for as long as i had it on there. You are right that the journal bearings are less reliable but i still dont think their bb turbo's are as reliable as garretts.

 

Wow, thats crazy. Ive never used the HTA86, so do you feel the compressor or turbine wheel makes the difference in power potential vs the 6262?

 

Great thread and info
Am acutally between the 6765 and 6265, so my question is which one well make 600+whp on a DJ with 93oct, and when can you see full boost on both, ofcourse on a built 2.0 engine??

 

Do you know anyone who has used this turbo, I tried searching for it on Evom but didn't find anything.

 

Where is the DynoJet in Kuwait?

 

We use Comp Turbo,FP ,BorgWarner and PTE. I think i may have a dyno sheet for the 61mm. Comp is working on some new wheels but their big thing is their aluminum ,triple bearing center section. MAP is using a Comp Turbo on their new drag car (80mm)