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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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What I doubt is I will max out my current setup......lol if I do I think it would be a new record.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
we are ''well i am not'' putting you down. u want something simple and effective. you spent money on a dual rail setup ''extra money over a single rail'' you spent money on another set of injectors'' extra money'' you spent money to get it all to work correctly ''extra money'' when you could have saved so much time, money, hassle by going with a single rail and ID2000 injectors.
Please see my previous posts to your answers. Maybe I did go overboard but after running out of fuel twice with different setups and different tuners and different dynos I decided to go all out.

Besides for the price of the ID's I still paid less for the 8 FIC's that I have now, by a few hundered bucks.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by scheides
The best way would be not to, just run the ID2000 injectors on the stock ecu and be done with it.
Already is running AEM

Originally Posted by red03evo
Why do you need two fuel rails?
The guy is running a 4088R Turbo and that's why he got the dual fuel rails.

Originally Posted by Gordian79
I think its one of those look at me i have dual rails situations.
Yes he is one of those guys. That's why he's looking to set the Evo HP record in Colorado.

Originally Posted by red03evo
Just curious but how much power is this car making?
Josh is looking to make 800+ WHP!!!

Originally Posted by evodan2004
ID2000 is like 2200cc injectors and u can use E85. imo its much more realistic,simple, less bs to go wrong and i highly dought you will max them out.
With that Turbo setup and E-85, I bet he would max them out!

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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dambikeracer
The guy is running a 4088R Turbo and is looking to make 800+ WHP!!! That's why he got the duel fuel rails.
800HP does not need dual rails at all. not even close. but it is what he wants and that is fine. good luck with the setup JOSH.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by evo8daddy
that looks freakin stupid and in the way!!!!
Do back to bed daddy with you 12 post and let the Men get back to business!
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
800HP does not need dual rails at all. not even close. but it is what he wants and that is fine. good luck with the setup JOSH.
Thanks Dan. I appreciate your contributions.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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IIRC the ID2000's hadn't even come out when he bought his 8 injectors and rails through his sponsorship with FIC... so either way he spent less for everything.

What would be the point of selling everything now and going with ID2000 or 2200's when the AEM can control 8 injectors just fine???

Maybe you genius people didn't read the part where he said " I SPENT LESS ON THIS SETUP THEN ID2200's" so why hassle him on his setup?
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by project_skyline
IIRC the ID2000's hadn't even come out when he bought his 8 injectors and rails through his sponsorship with FIC... so either way he spent less for everything.

What would be the point of selling everything now and going with ID2000 or 2200's when the AEM can control 8 injectors just fine???

Maybe you genius people didn't read the part where he said " I SPENT LESS ON THIS SETUP THEN ID2200's" so why hassle him on his setup?
ouch. put down the energy drink. if he bought the setup before ID injectors where available that would make some sense but it is still not the ideal setup. you should know just because its cheaper does not make it better. running 2 rails and 8 injectors is twice the potential problem of a single setup. so what he saved money. that does not mean its the best/most ideal setup. i did not knock him for his way of modding his setup. i gave my opinion. i like his setup. its just not the better way to do things. a genius would know that.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dambikeracer



With that Turbo setup and E-85, I bet he would max them out!
not even close
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 02:14 AM
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Like what??? When do injectors ever fail? That is the only complication that could ever happen. That is what gauges are for.
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by project_skyline
Like what??? When do injectors ever fail? That is the only complication that could ever happen. That is what gauges are for.
o come on now. 4 more injectors means, twice the possible leaks, twice the wiring, twice a possible failure. and clearly twice the headache because this thread has been made. he wants a solution to get it running. if he had a more ideal setup this thread would not exist. ''sorry josh just an example'' and a few other things to boot. the more complication you add the more risk for something to go wrong. thats simple math. and things do go wrong. they might not be common but it happens. since when is a gauge fool proof?
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Joshs EVO
Please look at my signature to why I got good deals on some of the parts.
so if you are sponsored by FIC then sell your current injectors and have them give the hook-up on some 2150cc's and save yourself a headache.

who holds the highest HP record in CO?
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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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I was just doing some injector math and he maybe right that the 2150cc may not be big enough. Here in the midwest they are big enough for anything but in Colorado it may not be. If he maxed out 1600cc on a 35r (700 crank hp) then his BSFC must be around .65 or higher. If he wants 800whp (900 crank) 4088? Then with a BSFC of .65 he would need around a 1900cc injector, if he wanted a nice 80% dutyy cycle. Now throw in the E85 issue of needing 20-30% more fuel depending on target AFR he would be looking at an injector over 2300cc. I still find it hard to believe but it appears possible. Finally he mentioned running VP Import as a possibility and 2100/2150cc injector are not compatible with oxygenated fuels like Import or Q

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Old Apr 15, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rgraystone88
so if you are sponsored by FIC then sell your current injectors and have them give the hook-up on some 2150cc's and save yourself a headache.

who holds the highest HP record in CO?
Well the only proven guy is on here also and that is a guy named Rodent. I think he made 678. There are others suposedly but none with proof and since this community relies heavily on proof we here in CO also want it but nothing have been given.

You guys really don't understand how much fuel you need to add to make up for the thinner air. Which is why I have been so nice.

So once again Thanks for the comments guys and Thanks APM your link it really helped me out and I am about to order the Y's for both feed & return.
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