FP Red owners please respond!!!
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FP Red owners please respond!!!
Long story short is I'm the 3rd owner of a beautiful Evo 9 with an FP Red 80mm turbo and tons of other mods(see sig) The second owner of the car blew the turbo because of the oil feed line issue posted all over Forced Performances website now. And he did it within 7-8 months of having it installed. It was covered under warranty, he mailed it to them, and they rebuilt it and sent it back. I, now the third owner of the car have the rebuilt Fp Red and the upgraded oil line, and its blown again! WTF!? 
It's a seal that went...I've only had the car a month and never even got a chance to beat on it. The second owner said the rebuilt turbo has only been on the car for 7 months and it was garaged for 3 of it for the winter...
Anyone have any idea what the heck going on or have the similar problem?
Since I'm the third owner of the car too I don't have the receipt for the original FP Red turbo purchase so they have been kind of jerking me around, even though I have the serial number of the turbo they can match up, AND they have records of previous two owners for the same issue...Please help...?
It's a seal that went...I've only had the car a month and never even got a chance to beat on it. The second owner said the rebuilt turbo has only been on the car for 7 months and it was garaged for 3 of it for the winter... Anyone have any idea what the heck going on or have the similar problem? Since I'm the third owner of the car too I don't have the receipt for the original FP Red turbo purchase so they have been kind of jerking me around, even though I have the serial number of the turbo they can match up, AND they have records of previous two owners for the same issue...Please help...?
What is the exact issue? too much oil or lack of oil? I purchased a HTA Green and SAniel(one of the sales person) told me that they will fully cover my new turbo as long as I purchase their upgraded oil line kit (which I did).
Talk to Robert and complaint, 3 turbos going bad is not usual, maybe there is something else that you are unaware off.
Carlos
Talk to Robert and complaint, 3 turbos going bad is not usual, maybe there is something else that you are unaware off.
Carlos
Sounds like an oil problem, my guess is that it was poor quality oil, or it was to think, or the little filter was not cleaned properly. It's kind of a pain in the a$$. Without pulling it apart, your guess is as good as mine!
I bought my Red used, and now have beat the shi* out of it for close to 20k miles year round and no problems. There's almost always problems if you let cars/trucks/RV's sit for months.
I bought my Red used, and now have beat the shi* out of it for close to 20k miles year round and no problems. There's almost always problems if you let cars/trucks/RV's sit for months.
Sounds like an oil problem, my guess is that it was poor quality oil, or it was to think, or the little filter was not cleaned properly. It's kind of a pain in the a$$. Without pulling it apart, your guess is as good as mine!
I bought my Red used, and now have beat the shi* out of it for close to 20k miles year round and no problems. There's almost always problems if you let cars/trucks/RV's sit for months.
I bought my Red used, and now have beat the shi* out of it for close to 20k miles year round and no problems. There's almost always problems if you let cars/trucks/RV's sit for months.
Mike
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I live local and bought one of the first FP Reds released. I ran the stock oil line until they made the announce meant of the upgraded line being necessary for warrenty so I bought the 1st gen line with no filter. I have been running that since. Hell, I had bolts back and stretch btwn my mani and turbo causing the gasket to be partially disenigrated and I am still running strong at 30psi...
Do you road race? Sorry to hear about the loss.
Do you road race? Sorry to hear about the loss.
This is a dumb thread. How is anyone else behind a computer far away from your car supposed to diagnose your car and turbo failure... and how would someone else's experience with their different mods, their driving, and their oil levels and pressure help you figure out what's going on with your motor, your car's past history, your driving, and your oil and pressure levels?
You bought a used car, heavily modded. It has blown two turbos, in succession, and both near new.
You should take a careful look at the rest of your setup and figure out what is causing the issue, instead of complaining on line about a problem you have not investigated, and a turbo that you do not know the history of or prior use.
Failing that, man up, pull the turbo off the car, and send it to FP, who will tell you almost immediately what the damage is and what likely caused it. Then on the remote chance that it was a defect, they'll fix it and send it back to you. If it was your fault, they'll fix it for a reasonable price and tell you some of the common reasons for the type of failure you have. Either way, you get well treated and learn something you apparently don't know now...
You bought a used car, heavily modded. It has blown two turbos, in succession, and both near new.
You should take a careful look at the rest of your setup and figure out what is causing the issue, instead of complaining on line about a problem you have not investigated, and a turbo that you do not know the history of or prior use.
Failing that, man up, pull the turbo off the car, and send it to FP, who will tell you almost immediately what the damage is and what likely caused it. Then on the remote chance that it was a defect, they'll fix it and send it back to you. If it was your fault, they'll fix it for a reasonable price and tell you some of the common reasons for the type of failure you have. Either way, you get well treated and learn something you apparently don't know now...
This is a dumb thread. How is anyone else behind a computer far away from your car supposed to diagnose your car and turbo failure... and how would someone else's experience with their different mods, their driving, and their oil levels and pressure help you figure out what's going on with your motor, your car's past history, your driving, and your oil and pressure levels?
You bought a used car, heavily modded. It has blown two turbos, in succession, and both near new.
You should take a careful look at the rest of your setup and figure out what is causing the issue, instead of complaining on line about a problem you have not investigated, and a turbo that you do not know the history of or prior use.
Failing that, man up, pull the turbo off the car, and send it to FP, who will tell you almost immediately what the damage is and what likely caused it. Then on the remote chance that it was a defect, they'll fix it and send it back to you. If it was your fault, they'll fix it for a reasonable price and tell you some of the common reasons for the type of failure you have. Either way, you get well treated and learn something you apparently don't know now...
You bought a used car, heavily modded. It has blown two turbos, in succession, and both near new.
You should take a careful look at the rest of your setup and figure out what is causing the issue, instead of complaining on line about a problem you have not investigated, and a turbo that you do not know the history of or prior use.
Failing that, man up, pull the turbo off the car, and send it to FP, who will tell you almost immediately what the damage is and what likely caused it. Then on the remote chance that it was a defect, they'll fix it and send it back to you. If it was your fault, they'll fix it for a reasonable price and tell you some of the common reasons for the type of failure you have. Either way, you get well treated and learn something you apparently don't know now...
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Well said yes, but very unnecessary. I'm new to Evos and I was making sure it wasn't a common problem, like the oil feed line issue, before I dove into it. Thanks for being a dick
Well said yes, but very unnecessary. I'm new to Evos and I was making sure it wasn't a common problem, like the oil feed line issue, before I dove into it. Thanks for being a dick
He's looking for advice/help... not necessarily to be told the obvious.
You need to find the failure mode.
Once you've found the failure mode...you can attempt to diagnose what is causing it.
Once you've got a good handle on what that is... engineer a solution. Put solution into place.
Fork out the cash and get the FP Red rebuilt.
If it breaks again... your analysis or solution was not correct. Repeat.
An easy way to lose oil pressure is to corner at sustained g's... like what you might see on a road course or auto-x. This is to figure out the failure mode... most likely oil starvation. The cause for oil starvation could be that the oil pickup is being aerated. Your solution *might* be baffles in the oil pan or an AMS oil pan. Of course if you drive it back and forth to work and don't corner...than this theory is pointless.
FMEA!
You need to find the failure mode.
Once you've found the failure mode...you can attempt to diagnose what is causing it.
Once you've got a good handle on what that is... engineer a solution. Put solution into place.
Fork out the cash and get the FP Red rebuilt.
If it breaks again... your analysis or solution was not correct. Repeat.
An easy way to lose oil pressure is to corner at sustained g's... like what you might see on a road course or auto-x. This is to figure out the failure mode... most likely oil starvation. The cause for oil starvation could be that the oil pickup is being aerated. Your solution *might* be baffles in the oil pan or an AMS oil pan. Of course if you drive it back and forth to work and don't corner...than this theory is pointless.
FMEA!
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Makes sense, but I unfortunately don't know how the kid before me drove the car. I'm chalking it up to a weak rebuild or the fact the car sat all winter, leaving bad oil in the car for months...I baffled oil pan in any case should be a no brainer for me now though just in case...Thank you for an honest reply by the way.
Find the cause of failure and have the turbo rebuilt by FP, but maybe have them upgrade it to the Black. Be really diligent of finding the solution to the issue though, or a rebuild will be in vain.