No 6th gear after clutch install?
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I know you said that your clutch before engaged into 6th normally, but one of the links to another thread that you gave suggests that its the syncros. Have you considered that? just because it worked before the recent clutch install doesnt mean your 6th gear syncro isnt toasted.
There is a good 6sp write up out on there. Wasn't available when I did mine so had to peice together the gaps.
when my tranny went I could drive the car but just ccould not shift into 4th gear. All other gears were fine. I could shift the car when it was off but when driving 4th gear was not there. So it could be a syncro or something else. When you drained the Tranny fluid did you notice any material in there? did anything come out metal wise?
when my tranny went I could drive the car but just ccould not shift into 4th gear. All other gears were fine. I could shift the car when it was off but when driving 4th gear was not there. So it could be a syncro or something else. When you drained the Tranny fluid did you notice any material in there? did anything come out metal wise?
Even while the car is off it still wont go
Today 09:26 AMburninrubb24If it dosent go into gear wit the car off then it isn't the cluch. Look into the linkage or the trannk itself
sorry i missed that part. but what burnin says does make sense so hopefully bleeding and refilling the acd does the trick.
Today 09:26 AMburninrubb24If it dosent go into gear wit the car off then it isn't the cluch. Look into the linkage or the trannk itself
sorry i missed that part. but what burnin says does make sense so hopefully bleeding and refilling the acd does the trick.
i didnt read all the post, but make sure your intake isnt pressed against that thing on the tranny(sorry don't know the terminology) but it has a rubber boot on it... When i put on my HTA green my intake was pressed against that thing and i couldnt go into 6th.... just a thought. Goodluck
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There is a good 6sp write up out on there. Wasn't available when I did mine so had to peice together the gaps.
when my tranny went I could drive the car but just ccould not shift into 4th gear. All other gears were fine. I could shift the car when it was off but when driving 4th gear was not there. So it could be a syncro or something else. When you drained the Tranny fluid did you notice any material in there? did anything come out metal wise?
when my tranny went I could drive the car but just ccould not shift into 4th gear. All other gears were fine. I could shift the car when it was off but when driving 4th gear was not there. So it could be a syncro or something else. When you drained the Tranny fluid did you notice any material in there? did anything come out metal wise?
Actually there was no metal shavings in the oil nor on the drain plug when I drained the oil. I still have it and found nothing.
I just find it hard to believe that the syncros would go if it worked before the clutch job and I know its not the clutch as someone on here mentioned earlier.
The clutch fluid is full and I tried to fill the tranny again today but it just overfilled.
I took out the battery and looked and there's seriously nothing in the way of the shift linkages. They are on the shifter mechanism pretty tight as well.
Now, I opened up the center console to look at the shifter itself and its not binding or have anything in its way. It does feel ODD when shifting sometimes as if its not 100% stiff, its very sluggish. It felt like this right when the clutch went out in front of my driveway. I felt hear a pop when this happened. After that, the car would not go in gear while the car was on at all so I figure it was the clutch which it was as disc was toast. But even with the new clutch, the shifter still feels the same way, nice and sloppy instead of firm like it did before.
It does NOT feel like 6th gear is even there as when you shift to 6th, it just goes to 4th. No grinding or anything. I have tried to put my whole weight on pushing it to 6th and in 5 times, i got it to go in once and thats forcing it in an about 1 min of playing with it. But when I tried to put it in neutral, it does not want to move, took me about 20 seconds to budge it back into neutral and it was totally weird as far as the feeling of the shifter.
I did however when doing the clutch, took out the shifter mechanism but I was very careful as to not move it or move the inside of it. When I reinstalled it, it went in smooth. Would this have caused this?
Again thank you so much for helping everyone. Ill keep taking more suggestions because I hope its just a small issue instead of having to rip the trans off again and replacing it. Thanks
Did you have a habit of missing 5th gear when driving the car hard? I had the same problem after I botched up a bunch of 5th gear shifts and found that it's from the slide rails getting burrs in them, preventing the shifter from getting into 6th. After putting a lot of miles on it and trying every so often to get it back into 6th on the highway it finally went in. Had to be going about 70 mph for it to even be possible though. Stationary - impossible. After that I just kept working the shifter into 6th while on the highway and it finally loosened up. Behaves almost like normal now. I know you said this only happened after you put everything back together, but it may be possible that this had already happened and moving around the trans when you did the clutch job shifted the rails a bit, causing the lockout issue. Just some food for thought.
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Did you have a habit of missing 5th gear when driving the car hard? I had the same problem after I botched up a bunch of 5th gear shifts and found that it's from the slide rails getting burrs in them, preventing the shifter from getting into 6th. After putting a lot of miles on it and trying every so often to get it back into 6th on the highway it finally went in. Had to be going about 70 mph for it to even be possible though. Stationary - impossible. After that I just kept working the shifter into 6th while on the highway and it finally loosened up. Behaves almost like normal now. I know you said this only happened after you put everything back together, but it may be possible that this had already happened and moving around the trans when you did the clutch job shifted the rails a bit, causing the lockout issue. Just some food for thought.
The shift linkages are in the correct places and like I mentioned before, no shavings in the trans oil nor on the trans plug when I pulled it.
1) Yes the Exedy is going to chatter with the clutch pushed in.
2) Take a picture of the linkage/top of the trans just so we all have an idea of whats going on. 6th gear doesn't disappear, it's got to be something dumb if you're checking things and they all look right.
2) Take a picture of the linkage/top of the trans just so we all have an idea of whats going on. 6th gear doesn't disappear, it's got to be something dumb if you're checking things and they all look right.
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Great idea. Ill get a pix up in a bit. And yeah, right now, 6th is no where to be found. It really feels like a 5 speed.
It's not clutch or syncro related if you never had this problem before the clutch install.
Something went wrong when you slid the shifter mechanism back in the tranny or when you put the shift cables back on. It's strange that you have 5th and reverse, but not 6th.
Something went wrong when you slid the shifter mechanism back in the tranny or when you put the shift cables back on. It's strange that you have 5th and reverse, but not 6th.


