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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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Will I be able to make 500hp..???

Ok I bought a used FP RED got a really good deal on it,, Anyway I hav a tune
(Street Tune) coming up I want 500hp,,, Will I be able to achieve it?? or am I dreaming..
Before the RED!!!!
on stock turbo @29psi E85 I made 424hp and 414tq...(DYNO PAK)
06_9_GSR On E85
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FP RED.TURBO
ARP STUDS
1000cc_RC
255 WALBRO
HKS 272 SPRINGS.RETAINERS
STOCK INTERCOOLER NISEI LOWER
HALLMAN MBC
INJEN UICP/INJEN INTAKE WITH HKS OPEN FILTER STOCK LICP
3"DP/3"E_BAY CATBACK/TEST PIPE

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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A single fuel pump is going to be on thin ice before 500whp (even with upgraded power and ground wiring). A second fuel pump is in your future.

A better cam set would probably help as well.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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No.

The OEM FMIC is going to restrict you. Get at least a 3.5" FMIC and it will eliminate knock.

Also, get a LICP definitely. An ETS LICP and ETS 3.5" FMIC would definitely help.

A double pumper fuel pump may be needed also, but I am not completely sure about that.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by evo unknown
A double pumper fuel pump may be needed also, but I am not completely sure about that.
I am.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
I am.
Such a badass
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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lol @ Ted.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Well before we all get hyper are you going on a disney jet where bicycles can make 500hp, or a mustang dyno, and im assuming your talking wheel hp? my guess is 1000cc injectors are going to stop you far before anything else will
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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i dont know about that but yea if you can get 1200cc or 1450cc injectors would be good. double pumper for real. you should invest in a cam upgrade like S2. your oem fmic will have heat sink way before you ever see 500. it must be upgraded to a 3.5" intercooler. changing your lower ic pipe is not as important as the other stuff mentioned
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Ya wheel HP....
The guy I bought the RED from made 500hp single walbro,,
The only thing he had diff from my setup was Intercooler upgrade and 280 cams...
Originally Posted by italianevo88
Well before we all get hyper are you going on a disney jet where bicycles can make 500hp, or a mustang dyno, and im assuming your talking wheel hp? my guess is 1000cc injectors are going to stop you far before anything else will
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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^ doubt it.

Not with single pump and 1000cc. No way.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:41 PM
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Wait my bad he had 1200cc injectors and fuel pump bypass valve mod,,
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^ doubt it.

Not with single pump and 1000cc. No way.

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Let's put this into perspective...

A single Walbro 255lph pump begins dropping rail pressure at ~550whp with gasoline. Given that E85 demands 27-30% more fuel capacity, a dual pump setup is required to maintain desired rail pressure at the boost levels required to see 500whp.

1250cc is a safe injector size to use for 500whp, and supports 600whp or so with E85.

And yes, I agree that an IC upgrade is a worthwhile idea. But let's face it, without adequate fuel to do the job, upgrades like cams and IC won't compensate.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Ok I'll get a intercooler... and 1200cc.?? I should be fine,,?? or just stick with my 1000cc
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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how about put your car on the dyno, see what it does, that add more fuel/ air accordingly, Its not that scientific to make power, but its always better to have more fuel available then less
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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I would get the intercooler, keep the 1000cc injectors and get a dual fuel pump system.
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