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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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Is HTA 3586 too laggy for a stock engine

I have a greddy T67 turbo kit installed but it's too laggy for my stock 2.0 so i want to change it. I don't have my stock manifold so i'm not going with FP. Question is should i get the HTA3586 or the HTA3582 or are they both still going to be laggy for my setup. I do have 280 cams, GSC springs and retainers and fuel mods. I don't drag it cause there is no track in hawaii but i will be moving to virginia in a few months so i don't know whats in store for me there. I might build later but gonna stay stock for now. Any help would be apreciated
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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I have a greddy T67 turbo kit installed but it's too laggy for my stock 2.0 so i want to change it. I don't have my stock manifold so i'm not going with FP. Question is should i get the HTA3586 or the HTA3582 or are they both still going to be laggy for my setup. I do have 280 cams, GSC springs and retainers and fuel mods. I don't drag it cause there is no track in hawaii but i will be moving to virginia in a few months so i don't know whats in store for me there. I might build later but gonna stay stock for now. Any help would be apreciated
It wont be as laggy but perhaps still a little. Your bigger issue is starting a built bottom end fund to pay for a new block when you window your old one.
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 12:13 AM
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if you dont like lag i say you buy a tubular manifold lol and a fp black get your 35r power but sick spool
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 12:37 AM
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https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ne-3586-a.html
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 02:49 AM
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If there wasnt lag everyone would have a 800whp car, Great things come to those who wait while the impatient are always two car lengths benhind(or more)....
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:28 AM
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damm johnbradley, that's amazing. How do i see your mod list? I,m pushing 425 WHP on the T67 now but i think thats a safe tune but that's all the tuner could do @ 25 psi. Why do i see some tuners only tune to 25 psi and some go to 28-30 on stock internals. I wanted to get the magnus V5 but i,ve read if i'm under 500 it won't really make a difference.
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:43 AM
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Get rid of the 280 cams. They don't mix well with big turbos at all unless you're revving to 9500-10k. You will lose some of that power up top by your redline but it'll drastically bring up your mid-range if you switch to 272s.
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Hey do you have a over lay of this with your 2.4 pump tune?
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo_TK
Hey do you have a over lay of this with your 2.4 pump tune?
It would only be accurate boost to boost and I dont have a 29psi pull on pump with the 2.4

I can do 26 to 26 for the 2.0 vs 2.4 on 92?

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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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That would be cool I just want to see the spool up difference, I am about 95% sure ill be doing a 2.4 next year lol
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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damm i had HKS 272 but someone told me 280 was better so i got them. i should of researchrd more. is it true that a aftermarket intake manifold won't help me much at these low HP
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 11:41 PM
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HKS 280 arent hurting spool. Keep them for now. Intake manifold was worth 45whp on my car at 530 on pump.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 12:11 AM
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man thats sweet. i really think i just need to sell my T67 to someone with a built engine and get something that will better suit my stock setup. Oh and i have the Tomei 280 cams think 10.5 lift
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:12 AM
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If you don't road race your car, then the FP journal bearing turbos are the way to go for most bang for your buck..
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo_TK
That would be cool I just want to see the spool up difference, I am about 95% sure ill be doing a 2.4 next year lol
I dont have any really back to back ones now that I look. Honestly it doesnt look that much different...maybe 400rpm to full boost? Its torque thats being produced everywhere else though, 300 ft lbs at 4600 vs 5050.



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