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Old Aug 1, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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kelford cams help

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So I purchase a set of kelford tx280 cams for my evo from jms racing in san antonio they were a set of used cams they had and gave me a good deal, well im degreeing the exhaust cam shaft and the max lift specified by Kelford is 11mm I checked 10 times and I get 10.85mm I placed my dial guage tip at different places on the retainer and I always get 10.85mm I looked at Kelford's web site and they only have a 10.5mm and 11mm lift did I get a different cam? I try to follow the cam spec and im off by 11 degrees from center line I have 104 and the spec sheet calls for 115.
Any ideas I called JMS but they say they are kelford's my intake cam does checks in with advertised lift of 11.5mm
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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What was the manufacturing dates on them? the older Kelfords are different.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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Are you measuring lift at the valve with the valve springs in or do you have a soft test spring in? 6 thou of deflection in the cam is pretty normal with the valve spring installed. Try a test spring on that cylinder and see if you get your 11.0
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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No i do not have a test spring im testing with the stock springs and retainer 10.87mm to 11mm is is .13mm maybe u are right , now what is disturbing is the fact that in order for me to get a center line like the manufacture states on the spec sheet of 115 I advanced the gear to its max and im only able to get 111 center line.
So this makes me think that the exhaust cam is not correct.
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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okay this is the max lift register on both cams using a stock spring and 0 lash

intake .420 10.66mm
exhaust .413 10.49mm I measured them 7 times result was the same

I dont know ,im just gonna return these cams and buy a set of new , im not longer sure they are kelfords
can some hel identify these

thanks
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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any chance that the lifter is bleeding / compressing a bit under the load?

what is the lift if you subtract the base circle from the nose of the cam & multiply that by the rocker ratio?

i have seen 2 published rocker ratio's for the 4g63, 1.7:1 is common, while kelford advertises 1.73

GL
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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well hopifully somebody from the shop comments on them
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Aby@MIL.SPEC
any chance that the lifter is bleeding / compressing a bit under the load?

what is the lift if you subtract the base circle from the nose of the cam & multiply that by the rocker ratio?

i have seen 2 published rocker ratio's for the 4g63, 1.7:1 is common, while kelford advertises 1.73

GL
Im using a solid lifter adjust to 0 lash , I spoke to the guy that sold the cam set and now he is telling me that they are GCS S2 274 272 cams, I checked GCS site and they only advertise a 274 not 272 im waiting for them to send me the spec sheet and I will try again.
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