miragevo

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Map also sells their version of Howards Rods at the standard length of 150mm. These would work perfectly in the 4G69. Talk to Kyle at Map...he helped design these rods and is one of the guys responsible for their Stock ECU 4G64 Evo putting out 1053awhp. I had an extensive conversation about these rods just yesterday. You need to call Wiseco and tell them you want a 9.5:1 compression version of their standard 1400HD Stroker piston part # K627M85. The custom piston would hypothetically have a new part # K627M87...which would be an 87mm bore and you specify that you want it bumped up from 9.0:1 to a 9.5:1 version. I think with this combo you'd be safe to 1000+ hp.

Map-Howards Rods Link: Ask for Nick in sales

http://www.maperformance.com/maperfo...-5900mit7.html

Wiseco 1400HD pistons Link: Scroll to the bottom of the page

http://www.wiseco.com/Catalogs/Sport.../MiniMitsu.pdf

Michael

RockmanX

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LOL wow you are one determine person to get the 4g69 guezz go see the blue bomber and you will change you tune quickly . To a person above a 30r with 85 could love tap 600 it will be tight but possible on paper. Personally i would tell him again 35r 6262 or fp black for power and spool. You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lucky you have a evo shop right there with evos swarming around it with multiple builds going on so you can get a ride with different setups to get a feel for what you want. I NEVER had that luxury .

L@Ncer06

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Alright guys i got the 4g64 block. Also i took my car in to get tuned at jms and it was awesome the car feels strong as hell pulls hard in every gear i will hand it to JMS Racing there onw of the best shops around TEXAS recommend everyone to them.

miragevo

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Map sells their standard version of Howards Rods at a "custom length of 156mm". These would work perfectly in the 4G64. Talk to Kyle at Map...he helped design these rods and is one of the guys responsible for their Stock ECU 4G64 Evo putting out 1053awhp. I had an extensive conversation about these rods a few days ago. You need to call Wiseco and tell them you want a 9.5:1 compression version of their standard 1400HD Stroker piston part # K627M85. The custom piston would hypothetically have a new part # K627M87...which would be an 87mm bore and you specify that you want it bumped up from 9.0:1 to a 9.5:1 version. I think with this combo you'd be safe to 1000+ hp and is the best solution for the money....Call MAP.

Map-Howards Rods Link: Ask for Nick in sales

http://www.maperformance.com/maperfo...-5900mit7.html

Wiseco 1400HD pistons Link: Scroll to the bottom of the page

http://www.wiseco.com/Catalogs/Sport.../MiniMitsu.pdf

Michael

RockmanX

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I could have told you that told you to go up there for anything that your need they are a full service preformace shop boss LOL. DID you take alook at the blue bomber in person?

usacchamp

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do a 4g63 stroker

RockmanX

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dont listen to this guy of course he made a comment and did not bother to read the thread first trying to get post count up

L@Ncer06

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yeah i got to look at the blue bomber and i had seen it before but now its all built and ready to rock rockman LOL u like that i thought it was cool but on a serious note miragoevo what do u think about a 10:1 compression also guys i need to know what parts i can use from my 63 that im swaping out i know the head and all but what else can i use? let me know and also i looked at the block and it has a set screw that looks like an oil feed for my head ill post pics later and yall can tell me what it is alright thanks

L@Ncer06

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That will be another build ill do after this one but thanks for your input

miragevo

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!0:1 pistons would be fine too. I was suggesting 9.5:1 for more of a dual map configuration...ie a 93 octane map and an E85 map. If you're going to run E85 primarily then I'd say go for the higher 10:1 compression piston. Either way, with the 10:1 pistons, you'd have to run a few clicks less boost over the 9.5:1 pistons. The 10:1 would probably give you better spool characteristics. I'd also run the GSC S2 cams for the street at the very least. There are a lot of shops that have had good results with a 10:1 piston.

RockmanX

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yes but if he is not going to run e85 extremely rarely like me then he needs to not go for 10:1 to be honest 9.5:1 is perfect as he has already stated he has e85 but not in a reasonable distance to him and his job.



To answer the ops earlier questions everything from the 4g63 will swap over to the 4g64 but you do have to add some special stuff to make it work as I did of course. Make sure you get new parts as well like pullies headgasket frontcase etc. PLEASE PLEASE dont forget to get a fluidampr

you need a waterpump adaptor plate
Bigger Headgasket Custom AMS like i have or a power enterprise 87mm hg
Longer timing belt as in a 4g64 belt like i have or you can use a kevlar 4g63 but you will have to stretch it over the idler pully
Adjustible camgears you only need one since your a evo 9
You will need to also tap the block for mivec oil feed line
dont forget you have to move it one tooth up and adjust mivec tables for evo 9.
Also retard the timing 3.75 on camgears or camgear if you have evo 9.

miragevo

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I agree, 9.5:1 pistons are the best overall choice, especially on 93....Wiseco HD1400's FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jameswwt

Hi guys,
im in a mid of rebuilding my evo 5 engine and just wonder do we need to mod the block to accomodate the 4g64 and 4g67 crankshaft to a 4g63t block???

RockmanX

iTrader: (78)

maybe im missing his question here

4g64 block??
4g67 crankshaft what mm is that?
to a 4g63t block??


Two blocks to one another or do you me 4g64 block with a 4g67 crank using a 4g63 head??

jameswwt

I mean 4g64 or 4g67 crankshaft into a 4g63t block.