Now that we're getting all of these shops and other companies releasing their kits, which one would you choose? Remember that it has to have the 3 main requirements: Streetability, Horsepower output, and a good value. We all know that there are no junk turbo kits out there so no need for quality consideration. So you have:HKS,Greddy,Ultimate-Racing,Buschur, AVO, AMS, that other company from Florida, RNR. If I forgot any let me know. I vote the Japanese companies out only because their prices are insane. Ultimate is way high too (about $5k). Buschur is great value, but for those looking for a modern BB Gt turbo you're out of luck with them. So I vote for AVO so far. Nice cast manifold, GT turbo, internal wastegate (nice clean fitment). For all that are not aware the AVO kit lists a GT40 turbo when in fact its a GT3040. 30hot-40 cold.
SO lets hear your opinions

 

I would seriously look into our kit. I believe it will perform the best out of anything kit that will be released on the market.


GT Dual Ball Bearing turbo= big turbo little lag.


We have finally finshed our kits after lots and lots of experimenting, testing, fitting and fabrication.

It will feature

GT turbos
SS equal length manifold
Tial External wastegate
3" SS 02 housing
oil lines, AN fittings, bolts, nuts, etc


These kits are top quality and there are absolutely no corners cut on this kit at all. It is the best of everything. All the bling bling power you can imagine.


I am using this kit on my car right now and the spool and power is unbelieable. We have a ton of pics of this kit, but just need to resize them so we can post them up.



If you want big power and a big turbo on a street car then the only way it can be successfully acomplished is with the new GT dual ball bearing turbos.



Let me know if you have any questions on it. Or PM for pics and questions. We will have threee levels that are tested and proven to work. I will get pics up on Friday.

 

Whatever will get me 420whp at 19psi with a boost threshold of no more than 3400RPM's.

At least until I feel like forking over some dough and getting a longblock than can rev to 9k.

 

We have a kit that will do 400+whp at 19-20 psi and 3400-3500 full boost.

I believe it could only be done with our GT L2R kit. Which is a GT30R dual ball bearing turbo and equal length manifold.


PM if you need prices or questions on the kit.

 

I'm going with the HKS turbo and intercooler kit this coming summer, only because I trust their product development and experience in tuning Evos. They've been tuning Evos far longer than most companies. If their kits are good enough for the rally team, they're good enough for me.

 

too bad Al's HKS manifold cracked...yeah good quality there

 

buschur's turbo kit should be very promising....since they have the most experience with the 4G63. forget about HKS and their overpriced products.

 

Well...I think most people, like myself, are fairly scared at reproducing what happened to Al.

The only downside I see with Buschur's kit is its not BallBearing. Which he claims is due to the fact they fail. He is the one who told us tubular manifolds would fail. The other tuners called BS and guess what...It Failed. So I'm tempted to think he knows what he's talking about.

 

I'm pretty sure HKS doesen't do anything with the rally teams. Go American...HKS is expensive and not necessarily any better. Go with a company that has ALOT more experience with the 4G63. AMS, Buschur, RNR, Forced Performance...etc. Horsepower is horsepower.

 

Just becasue HKS mass produces their manifolds and they had one crack doens't mean that tubluar manifolds crack. I have seen way to many cast manifolds crack as well. From Turbonetics, 1g and 2g manifolds. They crack as well.


I don't have faith in all tubular manifolds. Companies like HKS might not use the same standards as they are builds lots of them at one time.


We build our manifolds one at a time by hand. This was you are assured that we used the strictest tolerences and everything is high quality. I know for a fact that, along with us there are several companies that build quality manifolds that don't crack.


We also use 8 gauge cast runners too. All the tubular manifolds that i see crack use thin wall runners. They usually use a thin wall 304 18 gauge SS. Then they wonder why it crack.

They didn't support the turbo right and didn't use expansion slots.


We know how to build tubular manifolds that perform the best and won't crack.

 

RnR: So you'd be willing to warranty your manifold for a lifetime, no questions asked?

 

If all works out, I'll be trying Buschur's. It sounds like the best street kit for the long haul. Sounds to be durable, make decent power, and spool up like a street kit should... not to mention the "OE look/fit" Then I'll have to find someone to tune the car via flash... for my purposes.

 

RnR what is the cost of the full gt30 kit?

what is the manifold made of?

 

Good question. If it's so good why not.

 

I beg to differ on some of the things said here and I'd like to take this opportunity to reply.

First of all, Al's running a highly tuned motor, much more than what most of us will be running. If he breaks something, it's more likely because of his own doing, experimentation, and recklessness. I admire his enthusiasm and his courage to go forward with his car's performance, but it's not a route I'm taking. You cannot blame the product if the consumer tends to go beyond the acceptable threshold of the product. Al is after all, nuts(!) compared to most of us.

Secondly, HKS has been tuning 4G63 engines ever since it went into production in Japan. HKS has been heavily involved in tuning The Evo ever since the car's debut. A quote from Super Street magazine's article on the HKS Evo (Evolution Solution)...

"...HKS has been dating and ******** the Evolution series since its freshman year..."

Freshman year, in this case, being October 1991, if my history memory serves me right.

Buschur on the other hand, although a reputable DSM tuner for many years, to my knowledge, does not have the extensive knowledge of tuning the Evo. Sure they're known for churning out bad *** DSMs, but the Evo is not a DSM. If I'm not mistaken, this is their first official foray into tuning an actual Evolution.

And third and final, yes, HKS has a hand in rally also. Team Mitsubishi, with drivers #1 Dave Higgins and #6 Lauchlin O'Sullivan, both drive Evos equipped with engines built by HKS. As seen on pages 14 to 16 of HCI magazine's article (Evolution Of Greatness), here are some quotes...

"Power for these wicked machines comes by way of a specially built version of the already powerful Mitsubishi 4G63 2.0-liter four-cylinder built from the ground up by HKS."

"...this HKS version produces a neck-snapping 400-plus horsepower at 6500 rpm and 442 lb-ft of torque at 5000 rpm."

But it all boils down to what you prefer. If you still prefer Buschur, for whatever reason you may believe is true, then by all means do what you want. Nobody's gonna slap your hand if you choose Buschur over HKS or Vishnu, or any of the other companies out there trying to make a buck on the Evo. You can do whatever you want. It's a free country.