So, which turbo-kit would you choose?
Originally posted by superz
that's interesting to hear about Buschur, however I can't agree with 400hp being nothing. Lets show some numbers on pump gas guys!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many people actually use high octane on the street, come on! I know im more interested in seeing real street pump number rather than 116 octane $6 a gallon numbers. They can be impressive but thruth is 99% of people will NOT run more than 93 octane.
that's interesting to hear about Buschur, however I can't agree with 400hp being nothing. Lets show some numbers on pump gas guys!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many people actually use high octane on the street, come on! I know im more interested in seeing real street pump number rather than 116 octane $6 a gallon numbers. They can be impressive but thruth is 99% of people will NOT run more than 93 octane.
(ok, bad joke Al)
Originally posted by 5StarSuzuki
Heh...I would imagine the HKS rally car doesen't use pump gas. And BTW: I'll be using methanol injection in my car this summer...High boost all day long!
Heh...I would imagine the HKS rally car doesen't use pump gas. And BTW: I'll be using methanol injection in my car this summer...High boost all day long!
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Originally posted by superz
that's interesting to hear about Buschur, however I can't agree with 400hp being nothing. Lets show some numbers on pump gas guys!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many people actually use high octane on the street, come on! I know im more interested in seeing real street pump number rather than 116 octane $6 a gallon numbers. They can be impressive but thruth is 99% of people will NOT run more than 93 octane.
that's interesting to hear about Buschur, however I can't agree with 400hp being nothing. Lets show some numbers on pump gas guys!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many people actually use high octane on the street, come on! I know im more interested in seeing real street pump number rather than 116 octane $6 a gallon numbers. They can be impressive but thruth is 99% of people will NOT run more than 93 octane.
It really doesn't matter what you think. With the correct size turbo lets use the BR500 (dsm application) for example. has made 400 hp on many cars on pump gas at 20-21 psi. 400HP and 400whp are two very different things. Dave's points as always are 100% accurate. 400whp is also very common at around 24 psi also on pump gas.
This is something that I've been pondering.. Its just funny that we bought turbo cars because they have turbos, and now we're considering putting another different turbo on it...
Anyway, I too am inclined to go with the Buschur Racing kit.. I've had experiences with stainless headers in Normally aspirated cars.. They warp, leak, crack, etc.. I also can understand a failure due to stress fractures of supporting the weight of the turbo and to some extent the exhaust system, or the movement of the engine and a solid downpipe. You honestly can't beat a tubular exhaust manifold for power, combine that with a thermal coating and you have an amazing combination... But this car is my daily driver, so compromises and durability are my primary concern.
Funny though, the power levels we're talking about here (in WHP) means that the crank HP levels are approaching the power my RACE CAR makes.. and that just blows my mind.
Anyway, I too am inclined to go with the Buschur Racing kit.. I've had experiences with stainless headers in Normally aspirated cars.. They warp, leak, crack, etc.. I also can understand a failure due to stress fractures of supporting the weight of the turbo and to some extent the exhaust system, or the movement of the engine and a solid downpipe. You honestly can't beat a tubular exhaust manifold for power, combine that with a thermal coating and you have an amazing combination... But this car is my daily driver, so compromises and durability are my primary concern.
Funny though, the power levels we're talking about here (in WHP) means that the crank HP levels are approaching the power my RACE CAR makes.. and that just blows my mind.
Originally posted by Turbo Weapon
It really doesn't matter what you think. With the correct size turbo lets use the BR500 (dsm application) for example. has made 400 hp on many cars on pump gas at 20-21 psi. 400HP and 400whp are two very different things. Dave's points as always are 100% accurate. 400whp is also very common at around 24 psi also on pump gas.
It really doesn't matter what you think. With the correct size turbo lets use the BR500 (dsm application) for example. has made 400 hp on many cars on pump gas at 20-21 psi. 400HP and 400whp are two very different things. Dave's points as always are 100% accurate. 400whp is also very common at around 24 psi also on pump gas.
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Originally posted by MalibuJack
I've had experiences with stainless headers in Normally aspirated cars.. They warp, leak, crack, etc.. I also can understand a failure due to stress fractures of supporting the weight of the turbo and to some extent the exhaust system, or the movement of the engine and a solid downpipe. You honestly can't beat a tubular exhaust manifold for power, combine that with a thermal coating and you have an amazing combination... But this car is my daily driver,
I've had experiences with stainless headers in Normally aspirated cars.. They warp, leak, crack, etc.. I also can understand a failure due to stress fractures of supporting the weight of the turbo and to some extent the exhaust system, or the movement of the engine and a solid downpipe. You honestly can't beat a tubular exhaust manifold for power, combine that with a thermal coating and you have an amazing combination... But this car is my daily driver,
With a well constructed tubular manifold with ceramic coating. will be fine for a daily driven car.
This manifold is also available for an EVO application. The ceramic coating was done later. 
Last edited by Turbo Weapon; Nov 29, 2003 at 12:49 PM.
Yes, the manifold is cut into 4 pieces. This is one of the techniques we use so our manifodls don't crack like other companies.
It's called expansion slots.
The final product will be jet hot coated. We didn't have time to wait on it so we just installed it.
The turbo feels real real good. We are running 22 psi and it feels extremely fast.
It's called expansion slots.
The final product will be jet hot coated. We didn't have time to wait on it so we just installed it.
The turbo feels real real good. We are running 22 psi and it feels extremely fast.
Guaranteed not to leak. It is on our car now without any problems at all.
The turbo feels real good. I suspect it's putting out about 500whp right now, but we will see this week for sure.
The turbo feels real good. I suspect it's putting out about 500whp right now, but we will see this week for sure.