High rev HKS may build the engines or supply internals for the engine, but they certainly don't run HKS turbos on the rally cars. That is fact not just talk. Unless you live in japan then in all other country's HKS stuff is well over priced and the turbo kits are not very well built. Ive heard of alot of problems with the HKS spec garrett units. I don't think much to the manifolds either.

 

In Japan, HKS used to be big bad daddy of the turbo world.( Only because Trust failed to innovate more frequently) But Brands like Apexi, Biltz, Power Enterprises are starting to come up. Also Japan is starting to have smaller tuner companies re-doing turbines and selling as there own "kits" .

 

I have seen RnR's concept gt35r turbo kit. It looks very promising and the quality in build is great. A friend of mine was running a t3/t4 kit from RnR on his dsm and had no problems with the manifold. These guys have quality products and great service.

 

If you're considering the HKS kit, go with Ultimate Racing's. Definitley a proven kit in my eyes. 125mph is definitely impressive. Al is making 121mph best and i honestly think his turbo is at its limit.

Avo kit looks good too...but i'd like to see some more results.

 

I bet al will surprise us all...I think there is alot of room left in his car...he is relentless...Id be willing to wager he gets into the 10s very soon...I think this next year will be very interesting for the evo tuners

 

i have nothing against al. it just looks like his turbo is maxing out. he doesn't seem to be getting faster...just quicker. which would mean he's getting better and better at driving. a ten is probably possible if traction and driving is at its best. hell, buschur ran 11.6 @ 117(?). people are doing the same mph but high 11's. their run was obviously great driving and great traction as i think they nailed a LOW 1.6 60-ft that run as well.

 

first of all, al doesn't beat on his car if he doesnt have to.. and second of all it seems the crack in the manifold could've been hurting him...

and finally... the HKS3037 turbo is a garrett turbo ... hush hush.. the gt turbo that AMS is coming out with has the exact same characteristics of the 3037.. same spool-up same power (the AMS one has slightly more potential, but very close).. why? because it's a well-designed turbo that HKS liked.. they're not stupid..

how does 525whp on stock internals tuned on an SAFC-2 sound?? imagine that with AEM and built internals.. heh heh

AMS will have that same turbo from the HKS kit (doesnt say HKS on it tho) with that incredible spool in their kit for almost 2 grand less!! looks like a lot of peeps will have money left over for a set of volks or a nice set of coilovers!! yum!!

 

Im looking at the Buschur Kit. Looks promising.

 

Here are some prices for you guys.


GT L2R (GT30R) $3200

GT L3R (GT35R) $3600



I believe with these GT dual ball bearing turbos and our equal length manifolds that there won't be a better kit out on the market anywhere. These will spool faster than regular turbo and provide more power overall because of the well designed manifold.


We offer a 3 year warranty on all manifolds. We stand behind our work 100% without any problems. We have never had one come back and we have never had to warranty a manifold.



I am trying to get the pics up asap. I am having a real hard time getting them on the site.


let me know if there are any other questions, Ryan

 

Also you have to remember that our manifold isn't some ordinary manifold that is going to crack like the HKS.


We use cast runners that are an 1/8 thick which translate to 8 gauge. This is very thick nd the reason our manifolds don't crack like other thin wall manifolds produced by other companies.

 

Not to bust your ***** too much, but you guys never, yourselves, get any pictures up of your product. Kinda worries the customer if the people building these "high tech" turbo kits can't post pictures to promote them. You guys would probably double sells if you could effectively market what you have to offer.

 

Wow, RNR's kit sounds just like mine. Stainelss manifold, Tial 40mm gate, GT35R turbo and custom stainless O2 housing. MIne shoudl be ready for release later this month. Been working on the Sti lately.

 

High Rev,

Forget about the tuning of the DSM vs. EVO. You say an EVO isn't a DSM. You are looking at this the wrong way. We have been building, tuning and racing the 4G63 since 1989. This is longer than the 1991 you say HKS has. Actually HKS has been doing it before 1989 also, just to clear things up.

We aren't tuning a name on a car, we don't tune the doors or label on the trunk or hood. We are both (HKS and us) tuning the engine, a 4g63 wether it is in an EVO, pick up truck, tube car or a motorcycle is still a 4g63, what car it is in doesn't mean squat, right?

I'm not trying to come of like jerk, just making a point that saying we haven't been tuning an EVO is silly. You aren't tuning a car, you are tuning an engine.

Also "400 plus horsepower at 6500 rpm and 442 ft lbs at 5000 rpm" is nothing but a joke from a 4g63.

Heck our stock turbo'd EVO right now is making 380 hp and 349 ft lbs at 20 psi.

Tym recently made 821 hp in his old AWD to the wheels at 29 psi of boost and with NO nitrous. That is well over double the HP you are talking about from HKS.

Our new turbo kits when released will be one the highest quality highest HP producing kits on the market. Watch and see. The EVO world is going to be set of fire by these kits.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

that's interesting to hear about Buschur, however I can't agree with 400hp being nothing. Lets show some numbers on pump gas guys!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many people actually use high octane on the street, come on! I know im more interested in seeing real street pump number rather than 116 octane $6 a gallon numbers. They can be impressive but thruth is 99% of people will NOT run more than 93 octane.

 

Heh...I would imagine the HKS rally car doesen't use pump gas. And BTW: I'll be using methanol injection in my car this summer...High boost all day long!