FP-Red failure
Great Info thank you!
However non of those brands are available here in austria.
Looks like have have to import the good stuff.
My problems is that no matter who i'm talking to here in austria.....everybody
knows best and everybody says something different.
However this FP Oil List helps me a lot - i'll get one of the recommended oils
on the list.
However non of those brands are available here in austria.
Looks like have have to import the good stuff.
My problems is that no matter who i'm talking to here in austria.....everybody
knows best and everybody says something different.
However this FP Oil List helps me a lot - i'll get one of the recommended oils
on the list.
You are right I'm definitely getting a green! I talked to Robert at Fp today and he was great, answered all my questions and then some! I think with the amount of Fp turbos on the market people(including myself) freak out when they see a failure. If I could get a % of how many failures there were to how many were running strong, I think the numbers would speak for themselves...
hi, try getting Motul 300V 5W40.... that is what wee are running our evo's over here in Croatia and it is excellent oil..

You are right I'm definitely getting a green! I talked to Robert at Fp today and he was great, answered all my questions and then some! I think with the amount of Fp turbos on the market people(including myself) freak out when they see a failure. If I could get a % of how many failures there were to how many were running strong, I think the numbers would speak for themselves...
FP has the best customer and warranty service in the industry, hands down.
In every situation, there's the possibility that a part can fail unexpectedly under heavy use. If that happens, FP stands behind it with their warranty. If it fails for some other reason, they fix it for a very reasonable charge.
But, whether FP warranties it or fixes it for cheap, the user still has to make sure that the rest of the system that the turbo is bolted to is working properly, or the turbo will simply fail again due to other causes, like contaminated oil.
It's always best to communicate with any vendor FIRST, so they get good information from you, inspect the part and can do their failure analysis, and get you an answer on whether the failure is covered by their warranty. Let them look at it and you'll get down the road quicker. Then tell us all what happened if you're unhappy with what you find.
In every situation, there's the possibility that a part can fail unexpectedly under heavy use. If that happens, FP stands behind it with their warranty. If it fails for some other reason, they fix it for a very reasonable charge.
But, whether FP warranties it or fixes it for cheap, the user still has to make sure that the rest of the system that the turbo is bolted to is working properly, or the turbo will simply fail again due to other causes, like contaminated oil.
It's always best to communicate with any vendor FIRST, so they get good information from you, inspect the part and can do their failure analysis, and get you an answer on whether the failure is covered by their warranty. Let them look at it and you'll get down the road quicker. Then tell us all what happened if you're unhappy with what you find.
Had the exact same problem with my FP Red. Talked to the guys over at FP and they told me it was due to the high exhaust temps (many laps at Nurburgring). Unfortunately unlike your turbo, mine was a month outside the warranty window. Will still buy another FP turbo though!
My recent experience with FP was fantastic.
I called Robert yesterday and asked him if there were two different sizes of their intake for the Reds and Blacks. Found out I had an early version setup for the 80mm cover and he offered to exchange it free of charge for a new one (84mm intake). It's over 1.5 yrs old and he offered to swap it out, he did not have to do that at all!
I called Robert yesterday and asked him if there were two different sizes of their intake for the Reds and Blacks. Found out I had an early version setup for the 80mm cover and he offered to exchange it free of charge for a new one (84mm intake). It's over 1.5 yrs old and he offered to swap it out, he did not have to do that at all!
Not to long ago my second rebuilt fp red went bad. The first one only lasted a few thousand miles at 27 psi. Then my second one with 29 psi and with the new revised oil line only lasted about 10k miles. I'm done with fp stock frame turbos.
I think some of you people may have unrealistic expectations with turbochargers , especially hi flowed bush/plate bearing ones .
Operating at anything like 27-30 pounds of boost definitely fits into super duty competition use and at these levels real race cars have a maintenance schedule designed to cater for the expected wear and tear .
I'd really like to know what sort of exhaust manifold pressures these turbos have and see the figure compare to boost air pressure .
I'm only guessing but I suspect horrendous end thrust from ginormous turbine inlet pressure and temperature destroys the hot side bearing and the thrust collar and plate .
I know of a larger Evo style 10.8cm turbine housing being sold here in Australia thats also supposed to have larger waste gate outlets , possibly something like this might in some small way open up the hot side and reduce the pressure in the turbine housing of a really hard worked turbocharger .
The real answer is for someone to cast up an Evo style TD06 direct fit turbine housing in a suitable cm size .
A .
Operating at anything like 27-30 pounds of boost definitely fits into super duty competition use and at these levels real race cars have a maintenance schedule designed to cater for the expected wear and tear .
I'd really like to know what sort of exhaust manifold pressures these turbos have and see the figure compare to boost air pressure .
I'm only guessing but I suspect horrendous end thrust from ginormous turbine inlet pressure and temperature destroys the hot side bearing and the thrust collar and plate .
I know of a larger Evo style 10.8cm turbine housing being sold here in Australia thats also supposed to have larger waste gate outlets , possibly something like this might in some small way open up the hot side and reduce the pressure in the turbine housing of a really hard worked turbocharger .
The real answer is for someone to cast up an Evo style TD06 direct fit turbine housing in a suitable cm size .
A .
I think some of you people may have unrealistic expectations with turbochargers , especially hi flowed bush/plate bearing ones .
Operating at anything like 27-30 pounds of boost definitely fits into super duty competition use and at these levels real race cars have a maintenance schedule designed to cater for the expected wear and tear .
I'd really like to know what sort of exhaust manifold pressures these turbos have and see the figure compare to boost air pressure .
I'm only guessing but I suspect horrendous end thrust from ginormous turbine inlet pressure and temperature destroys the hot side bearing and the thrust collar and plate .
I know of a larger Evo style 10.8cm turbine housing being sold here in Australia thats also supposed to have larger waste gate outlets , possibly something like this might in some small way open up the hot side and reduce the pressure in the turbine housing of a really hard worked turbocharger .
The real answer is for someone to cast up an Evo style TD06 direct fit turbine housing in a suitable cm size .
A .
Operating at anything like 27-30 pounds of boost definitely fits into super duty competition use and at these levels real race cars have a maintenance schedule designed to cater for the expected wear and tear .
I'd really like to know what sort of exhaust manifold pressures these turbos have and see the figure compare to boost air pressure .
I'm only guessing but I suspect horrendous end thrust from ginormous turbine inlet pressure and temperature destroys the hot side bearing and the thrust collar and plate .
I know of a larger Evo style 10.8cm turbine housing being sold here in Australia thats also supposed to have larger waste gate outlets , possibly something like this might in some small way open up the hot side and reduce the pressure in the turbine housing of a really hard worked turbocharger .
The real answer is for someone to cast up an Evo style TD06 direct fit turbine housing in a suitable cm size .
A .
35 pounds of boost, would be super duty.
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