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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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sorry to hear that bro ive got a red too and luckily *knock on wood* mine hasnt failed now if you chipped a blade off, and your engine hasnt blown up...my guess since the blade chipped on the cold side of the turbo, pull off the lower intercooler pipe at the intercooler and see if any of it is jammed up in there....hopefully FP will help you out
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bbyevo8u
hmm that doesnt look like an fp-red turbo, my red only has seven blade??
huh? surely you're joking...
thats a picture of the exhaust wheel, not the compressor.
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
..... since the blade chipped on the cold side of the turbo, pull off the lower intercooler pipe at the intercooler and see if any of it is jammed up in there....
He lost one blade off what was an 11-bladed turbine wheel, not the comp wheel. RSMike pointed this out. Initially I had thought it was the comp wheel as well. However, the heat discoloration and the shape of the turbine outlet made me count the blades.(Yes, I can count to ten Believe it or not).
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kyooch
yikes yea i remember you from the hta green thread - this is exactly the kind of thing we were hoping not to hear, i didnt know you jumped on it already. though, it does look like this had some special circumstances
Well they haven't received it yet so i could just have them ship it back but I thought I had finally made the right choice....
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EvolutinIX
Well they haven't received it yet so i could just have them ship it back but I thought I had finally made the right choice....
sorry, but what are you talking about? i.e. whats the problem with getting a Green done?
Surely you can't let an incident put you off?
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RSMike
sorry, but what are you talking about? i.e. whats the problem with getting a Green done?
Surely you can't let an incident put you off?
Pretty big incident...but your right I'm still gonna do it.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by EvolutinIX
Pretty big incident...but your right I'm still gonna do it.
it's a numbers game. If you heard that someone's engine blew up once, and someone else said "same here", would that stop you modifying your car?

I'm sure there are many many green/red/black turbo's out there that are just fine...
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 12:55 AM
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What you see on the picture is the hotside of the turbo.

yes, this is a 100% made in FP-Red Turbo bought through AMS.

i'm running Lambda 0.76 on full throttle - i think this is AFR 11.1,
my EGT was normaly between 500 and 800°C messured on cylinder #2
sometimes when accelerating from 2nd gear up to 6th gear it went up to 940°C @ 270km/h+
but only for a short period of time and i did this maxium twice since i have the fp-red.

i haven't sucked anything (that would have caused some damage to the compressor wheel,
or some damage to the engine if you ask me - both are fine)
also the engine hasn't had any failures.

i also don't think that Castrol RS 10W60 is a thick or wrong oil since this oil
is recommended by BMW for all M Series as well as it is recommended by Ferrari
for the 430 Scuderia.
All austrian evo owners i know are using that oil without any problems.

best regards,
Luke

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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 04:31 AM
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I don't know what motor oil they are running in Evos in Austria, but a 60W oil is going to be way too thick to flow well once it is up to temp. A safer bet on your forged motor in the hotter summer months would be a good full synthetic Ester based 10W-50 oil such as Silkolene Pro S 10W-50(same as Fuchs Titan Race Pro S). Additionally, oil pressures are going to be way too high with a 60W which is not necessarily a good thing.

Do some reading over on Lancer Register. There you will find a sixty page thread specifically on oil for Evos proctored by a fellow known as "Oilman". He strongly dissuades peeps from running heavy 10W-60 oils such as your Castrol in Evos. This would be ubber thick for the wintertime(even in summer).

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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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Well there are a lot of different oppinions on which oil should be used.
And even if my Castrol full syntethic rs 10W-60 is not the best in your oppinion - i'm
sure it hasn't caused that Red to fail. Or what do you think?

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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by RSMike
it's a numbers game. If you heard that someone's engine blew up once, and someone else said "same here", would that stop you modifying your car?

I'm sure there are many many green/red/black turbo's out there that are just fine...
I love those fp turbos and will always recommend them.
Great response, great power. Simply the best way to go imho.

Even if FP wont help me out here (...i don't hope so) i would go FP again.

Best regards,
Luke
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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You might want to give this thread a look:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...about-oil.html

That oil you are using is too thick to be using in an Evo. It might not have caused the failure you had, but it certainly would have caused problems in the long run.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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Great Info thank you!

However non of those brands are available here in austria.
Looks like have have to import the good stuff.

My problems is that no matter who i'm talking to here in austria.....everybody
knows best and everybody says something different.

However this FP Oil List helps me a lot - i'll get one of the recommended oils
on the list.
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Sorry to see your issues i hope FP takes care of you once they inspect it if you send it back!

Good attitude towards the failing products as i've seen all kinds of things fail but at that point who are you going to trust?

I'm not trying to add any fuel to a fire towards FP just stating my experience but we had a 2 BLACKS fail on a customer but those issues were both on the comp side.

The 1st one was warrantied and the 2nd hasn't gone back to FP yet as the experience did leave the owner with a sour taste in the mouth and is considering another brand of turbo.

On that note we also just had a BB T4 6765 sieze up on a customer after only 100miles or less on it after having a journal bearing T4 6765 take a poop just before that so it goes to show that all companies have issues so i pray they take care of their customers as we don't stop buying turbos that's for sure lol
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Old Oct 13, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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You can order some oils and have them delivered to you regardless of where you are located, the problem is the shipping costs.

There are many other good synthetics in the EU that would suffice for your needs, like German Castrol among others. Just do a search or read Ted B's suggestions in the Oil thread that show the needs for the steel-steel material in the Red/Black and see if the oil you have locally is acceptable. Calling FP wouldn't hurt either. They are very knowledgeable and helped me when I had some issues with my Green. They warrantied things and even gave me an upgrade.

Good luck
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