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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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Thats good info to know Shiv. BTW, when are you having your dyno day in LA?

I also have a question for you about the XEDE. My only reservation is that it isn't completely plug-n-play, having to do a little wire pulling here and there. This hasn't changed in the last several months has it?
I'm in LA right now, in fact. But not for a dyno day One can be arranged sometime in January. Later this month, I'm going to Colorado for a 2 day tuning session. Should have some time to spare when I get back.

As for the XEDE, only one wire needs to be pulled from the connector. And that is only if you want the XEDE to control boost. If not, leave it alone and plug in the harness. However, pulling that single wire takes most people about 2 minutes. It's not what I would consider a tough job. The whole install (minus the pill extraction) shouldn't take more than 10 minutes. Although I've timed myself at 2 min 20 seconds which even includes taking off the glovebox

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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and GOKU, i'd wait on the AEM, seems like everyone thats using it is having random problems here and there, not to mention the fact that having it tuned isn't exactly cheap...
Alex have you seen marks car? the red evo thats always at brainstorm, I took him to pick it up the other day and his aem works perfectally. His check engine light is his shift light. But tuning the aem is really expensive, not counting all the sensors and exhaust mark fryed from being on the dyno for hours.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by shiv@vishnu


If it's from APS, the system is based around the Unichip. FWIW, we're a Unichip dealer ourselves and, unless things have changed, the Unichip itself is only tunable by Unichip dealers. This means that it is not user-programmable as it requires proprietary software and a tuning module.

My 2c,
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I was talking yesterday to one of the mechanics of Brainstorm , which he is the one that is involve in tuning and working with the WRX/Evo's.
An you are right Shiv it is based on the unichip ,
Shiv how you compare the APS unit to your Xede ???
Alex:
Im local so went i ever have spare time im able to pop in to Brainstorm , which i will more often once the new place is up and running .
Im seeing all my different options to see what works best ...
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 11:02 AM
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Shiv how you compare the APS unit to your Xede ???
As a Unichip dealer, I can assure you that it is a good unit and it does its job well. But I can rightfully say that it's not at the same level as the XEDE. The latter being markedly more flexible, upgradeable and tunable. It's a pretty black-and-white comparison as everyone with the time to investigate both systems (hardware and software) will likely come to the same conclusion. APS is the Australian distributor of Unichip which is build in New Zealand, btw.

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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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Thanks , now you have put me back to the begining lol . Either your Xede or Brainflash from Works . A dyno day in L.A would be great Shiv , that way i can get the Xede and also have you tune it ...
An if you plan to run a bigger turbo can the Xede handle it with also upgrading bigger injectors and fuel pump ?. An im sure you would have too do something about the boost cut off ...
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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Alex have you seen marks car? the red evo thats always at brainstorm, I took him to pick it up the other day and his aem works perfectally. His check engine light is his shift light. But tuning the aem is really expensive, not counting all the sensors and exhaust mark fryed from being on the dyno for hours.
Yes i have, and thats exactly why i raise the concern. it was HIS dyno post on another thread on here that raise that issue to my attention.

Ask him about it.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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As for the XEDE, only one wire needs to be pulled from the connector. And that is only if you want the XEDE to control boost. If not, leave it alone and plug in the harness. However, pulling that single wire takes most people about 2 minutes. It's not what I would consider a tough job. The whole install (minus the pill extraction) shouldn't take more than 10 minutes. Although I've timed myself at 2 min 20 seconds which even includes taking off the glovebox

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Right, but my concern is that ive heard of several people having the connectors on their wire become loose after uninstalling and reinstalling the unit many times...thats why i ask

Also, i put my name on the list for the Xede unit earlier, and im curious as to when you guys will get more units in...
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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Yes i have, and thats exactly why i raise the concern. it was HIS dyno post on another thread on here that raise that issue to my attention.

Ask him about it.
I the only reason the dyno looked like that is because of spark scatter. Once he gets that fixed the dyno will look smooth.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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Right, but my concern is that ive heard of several people having the connectors on their wire become loose after uninstalling and reinstalling the unit many times...thats why i ask
That was only an issue before the plug-in harness. When the XEDE was wire-in, there was a molex connector which had terminals that would loosen up if clipped and unclipped too often. With the plug-in harness, there is no such terminal.

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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Hmmm I hate this to many parts not enough money. I want a piggy back rather than a flash, just makes more sense and is more flexable. But brainstorm is a lot closer than vishnu, so thats going to sway my money. Plus I have seen Roshans skill in tuning through Marks car which is incredible, btw alex he swapped the plugs and now the car is good to go, no more spark scatter.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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nice. btw, i think shiv is coming down to LA in january he there is enough interest. Im in for sure for the xede, now that i know now the APR unit works, and the more the merrier
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:51 AM
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it would be nice for shiv to tune the Xede here in south cali , how many peeps would you need in order for you to come to this area Shiv?
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 02:39 AM
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from some old posts, i think its 10, but ill let him clear that up. And hopefully, if hes going to be out here anyways, shiv may let us slide with a little less.

But you can count me in 100%.
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