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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 08:17 AM
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HTA Green and Reliability

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I've had my 03 Evo for roughly 2 and a half years now. The car has been an absolute blast and I still love the car to this day. Now that I'm finally graduating ME school, and have some job offers, I'm thinking about where I might like to spend the signing bonus

I've always wanted an FP Green or HTA Green. I'm just wondering about the reliability. My car has 94K on the odometer. It was bone stock until the 60K mark. At 60K I added all the major bolt ons and was immediately tuned by buschur and made 330 WHP on David's dyno.

I would really like to add the HTA Green along with aem ems and all other req'd supporting mods that I dont have already. I want to run what ever boost pressure is safe for 93 pump gas with no alchy. My question is, how safe does this sound. How reliable is it? I would like to daily drive the car for at least the next few years with no plans to sell it.

Thanks for the help and happy new year everyone!

-Ryan
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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well as long as you been doing your scheduled matenience the evo is just like any other car. there are people with 175k-204k miles on there stock blocks rolling fine. Adding anew turbo will do nothing really just add more power but with the HTA green you have to keep in mind tq is your enemy as that bad boy will produce a ton of it quickly. so long as you keep it down below 420tq you should be good. You could always while your at it get buschur to do a compression test to check your motor out and make sure its still good as well.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 09:37 AM
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That's a great idea = ) I'm looking to make around the 400 mark. I feel the HTA Green is fully capable. I've driven an FP green evo and loved that power mark. I'm just worried about the internals of my engine more than anything. I've always changed my own oil every 3K and have had all regular maintenance done that i couldnt do myself. The previous owner had a very nice record book with receipts stapled to it for all the maint./work he had done. I just don't want to start leaking oil or something like that after i throw the green in. Thanks for the input !
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 09:49 AM
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Hta green will be my next turbo..
Street monster, Black is just not very street friendly.
I dont drag, I dont need Black....

I am not bashing the black.. It is just not my type of turbo.. I actually get scared to go WOT on this turbo..
Maybe I am just a chicken

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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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Keath what do you think of the reliability of my car at 94K with running the HTA Green (IE no spinning rods/leaking oil)?
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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I think you'll be fine, but if it were me I would have David or someone of his level look at it first and see what they say. We can all give our input, but when it comes down to it I would have a pro look at your block first. Good luck!
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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There are way more knowledgeble people in this forum, they will answer for you..
I am not not one to ask since I have never been on stock motor...
sorry.

All i know is if you have BR motor, you will be fine..
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Haha that's a 10K option = ) I'm looking for stock block 94K reliability with that HTA Green. I'm thinking I may take my car up there to have some maintenance done (tranny, t-case, and rear diff fluids changed). Hopefully then they can do a compression test and "look things over" the best they can. Thanks for all the input = )
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by keath
there are way more knowledgeble people in this forum, they will answer for you..
I am not not one to ask since i have never been on stock motor...
Sorry.

All i know is if you have br motor, you will be fine..
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rcgoff2
Haha that's a 10K option = ) I'm looking for stock block 94K reliability with that HTA Green. I'm thinking I may take my car up there to have some maintenance done (tranny, t-case, and rear diff fluids changed). Hopefully then they can do a compression test and "look things over" the best they can. Thanks for all the input = )
10k you're joking right? Buschur's stage 3 short block is $3,050. I would think about some drop in pistons and have a it cleaned up a bit. Just my 2 cents, but yeah getting the compression test is a good start.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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as i stated first compression test and if all comes back fine HTA GREEN AWAY but as i stated KEEP the tq low and all will be fine. for a total built block labor replacement of parts is over 5k thats high enough boss for anybody to have to think serious about dropping that much coin. Keep in mind hidden things that could go wrong or other broken parts Keith whats the deal man. USE that fp black as it is meant to and to be honest if your going HTA green you would have waaaaaaaaaaaay more excitement to aid that spool with a 2.3-2.4 combo instead of your 2.0 aid that spool another 300-500 rpms faster. Im not going to lie i was thinking of getting a HTA green just so you get that instant PUNCH in the mouth hella quick but top end is booty but i could probaly get 550whp/500tq out of it or more hella quick but i think with a 2.4 ill be pushing that turbo way beyond its limits to early in powerband and end up breaking it constantly but just a thought if i get into autox more and road coursing but the black can do it as well just alittle later in powerband

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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Please use periods man. It was really hard to read that post.

Just go to checker auto, buy a compression tester and test the compressor on it. Also do a boost leak test to make sure its good too. Any turbo cam be ran on a stock block, but it depends on how you use it is how long everything will last
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 420a-t
Please use periods man. It was really hard to read that post.

Just go to checker auto, buy a compression tester and test the compressor on it. Also do a boost leak test to make sure its good too. Any turbo cam be ran on a stock block, but it depends on how you use it is how long everything will last
Seriously. Boss.

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All,

I would really like to add the HTA Green along with aem ems and all other req'd supporting mods that I dont have already.

-Ryan
No need for an EMS, stock ECU can support your goals easily. The HTA Green has blown some motors do to the torque, you might want to look into the Red.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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as i stated first compression test and if all comes back fine HTA GREEN AWAY but as i stated KEEP the tq low and all will be fine. for a total built block labor replacement of parts is over 5k thats high enough boss for anybody to have to think serious about dropping that much coin. Keep in mind hidden things that could go wrong or other broken parts Keith whats the deal man. USE that fp black as it is meant to and to be honest if your going HTA green you would have waaaaaaaaaaaay more excitement to aid that spool with a 2.3-2.4 combo instead of your 2.0 aid that spool another 300-500 rpms faster. Im not going to lie i was thinking of getting a HTA green just so you get that instant PUNCH in the mouth hella quick but top end is booty but i could probaly get 550whp/500tq out of it or more hella quick but i think with a 2.4 ill be pushing that turbo way beyond its limits to early in powerband and end up breaking it constantly but just a thought if i get into autox more and road coursing but the black can do it as well just alittle later in powerband

Rock.. yeah you are right. the top end is beyond crazy comming from a guy that had a 91 civic.. i cant get no more power out of my setup with my IDC maxed out to 99percent.. I will probably miss the black after i switch, but i really want that instant tq. You know what i mean..
oh you might not know what i mean since you have 2.4..


I am not bashing on 2.0 but since i dont drag, 2.3 or 2.4 suits me the best.

I am talking to Aaron about getting a 2.4.. Not as cheap as i thought BTW..

my setup for 2011 will be BR2.4 or ER2.4 with HTA green..

Love your build BTW..
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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OP you will be fine if the maintnance is up to par i guarantee you it will be fine ( i know plenty of peole that have higher milage and boost the heck out of their cars), BUT i suggest you getting an FP RED because it is more user friendly in sense of reaching your goal and keeping your engine stock. What makes 4g63 great and reliable and easy to take abuse is the factory clearences on the rings and everything else. Show me a build engine that will last over 100k miles??? The stock block is very strong you just have to know how to take care of it properly. And from an ME to another ME congrats on graduating
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