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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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Car will crank but no Start

So when i crank the car it fires, and did a log is goes up to 600 rpm but then stall out instantly.

Sometimes it starts, When the motor warms up, i starts right up always. Thats the weird part

Things i checked.
-Spark plugs
-timing
-loose wires
-fuel pump
-compression is good
- Cam angle sensor


The only thing i can think it might be that i havnt checked is Crank angle sensor

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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Check the fuse pane; under the dash Ill bet anything that's it.Fuse number 10 a red top left in the corner of panel ..
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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Check the fuse pane; under the dash Ill bet anything that's it.Fuse number 10 a red top left in the corner of panel ..
nope that isnt the problem
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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If it always starts when the motor is warm, I'd check the parts that affect cold start. IAC, coolant temp sensor, and on down the line...
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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It may be just a cold start problem. I was having the same problem till I reflashed the car. I'll go check exactly what I changed to get my car to start. It use to take me 15min to start my car and starter fluid till I figured out how to fix it I'm on E85 so my car is a bit different than yours.

I had to go into main map fuel settings in the ECU and change my Injector Cranking Enrichment IPW.

-0* - 108.1ms
18* - 83.1ms
45* - 58.1ms
68* - 48.6ms

As your coolant temp increases your cranking ms should decrease gradually.

That seemed to fix my car. Not sure if it will help you out or not.

Mikey

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
It may be just a cold start problem. I was having the same problem till I reflashed the car. I'll go check exactly what I changed to get my car to start. It use to take me 15min to start my car and starter fluid till I figured out how to fix it I'm on E85 so my car is a bit different than yours.

I had to go into main map fuel settings in the ECU and change my Injector Cranking Enrichment IPW.

-0* - 108.1ms
18* - 83.1ms
45* - 58.1ms
68* - 48.6ms

As your coolant temp increases your cranking ms should decrease gradually.

That seemed to fix my car. Not sure if it will help you out or not.

Mikey
thanks my ROM is really ****ty I dont have IPW..

is the n xml i can add from somewhere

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 5LEEPERISAH23I
thanks my ROM is really ****ty what would the IPW be under in ECU Flash.
Main fuel maps

Mikey
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
Main fuel maps

Mikey
yea just looked dont have that.

can i get the XML somewhere
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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You don't have main fuel map?

Mikey
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
You don't have main fuel map?

Mikey
nope the 03-04 ROM's some didnt
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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i'd maybe check the iac valve. had the same problem but it was consistent to a low idle when i started. it died to if i didn't gas it. just pull it out and check it. make sure that it is still in one piece. when i took off my old one, the whole top half was gone. all the plastic was pretty much gone. good luck.
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